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The Nicene Creed: Ancient Symbol of the Catholic Faith [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 07/22/2010 9:04:57 PM PDT by Salvation

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Ecumenical because more than the Catholic Church members recite the Nicene Creed.

1 posted on 07/22/2010 9:05:00 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...

I can hardly wait for the new version (more like the Credo version) is said!

What about you?

Catholic Ping!


2 posted on 07/22/2010 9:07:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: don-o

This may be of interest to you.


3 posted on 07/22/2010 9:12:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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4 posted on 07/22/2010 9:16:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thanks.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 9:31:18 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Salvation

I didn’t know a new creed version was in the works, so I’m not excited. I’ll just mull it over when it gets here.

I do very much like it that Catholics have a creed.


6 posted on 07/22/2010 9:31:24 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

The word “Credo” in Latin/Spanish, etc. has always meant “I believe.”

It is so wonderful to be getting back to the original meanings and translations for Masses said in English! Be happy!


7 posted on 07/22/2010 9:37:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: married21

**I’ll just mull it over when it gets here.**

Hopefully, your priest will be doing a lot of teaching/catechesis with the new translation. It will take some getting used to, but I am already saying much of it (to myself or softly.)

Another example is:

P: “The Lord be with you.”
All: “And with your spirit.” which is a direct translation of the Latin et cum spirtu tuo.

That has become easy for me, because I am saying it now, in fact, I’ve always said it in my mind.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 9:42:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Be interested in the comments from our Eastern Orthodox brothers, not to mention those Protestants who accept the Creed. From my own point of view I have generally considered all of those who accept the Creed as fellow Christians (those who do not may be folks of good will, but not Christians).


9 posted on 07/22/2010 10:03:52 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Salvation

I’m old enough to remember “and with your Spirit” from early childhood, in the 60’s.

In the early 90’s, I went to an Episcopal mass, and they said “and with your Spirit.” I was shocked that I recognized it, since I had only been 5 or 6 when I last heard it.

I guess some things stay with you.


10 posted on 07/22/2010 10:11:38 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Salvation
Do you have a copy?

When is the new creed announced?

I hope I am Wrong. I am leery. If in the creed jesus was not born of a virgin. I am out of here!Also I find it very strange that 80 plus year old pope wants to change the creed. I know he is conservative. But if he drops dead in the process. God Forbid! Remember the Prophecies from catholic saints. After this one. If nothing is definitely saying Christ came in the flesh(Human). That pope is the anti-christ or the great apostate. I know I sound like an alarmist. But with these end time pieces coming into play.

11 posted on 07/22/2010 10:13:35 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Salvation

Thats the new one at the end of the article. Oh! Thats more defined.


12 posted on 07/22/2010 10:17:11 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Salvation
The Son was not 'eternally begotten', he was begotten in time.(Ps.2)

Before the 2nd person of the Trinity became the Son, he was the Word and always existed with the Father,(Jn.1:1) as did the Holy Spirit.

13 posted on 07/22/2010 10:22:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Salvation
"he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man."

If thats it. Its more clear!

14 posted on 07/22/2010 10:22:36 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"The Son was not 'eternally begotten', he was begotten in time."

His Divinity was still en tacked as he become human. Like divinity put on the clothing of humanity.

15 posted on 07/22/2010 10:27:32 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Before the 2nd person of the Trinity became the Son, he was the Word and always existed with the Father,

That's what "eternally begotten of the Father" means. The contrary position, that Jesus is the incarnation of some created demigod who came into existence at a particular point of time, is the heresy of Arianism.

16 posted on 07/22/2010 10:37:07 PM PDT by Campion
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To: fortheDeclaration
Before the 2nd person of the Trinity became the Son

Oh, and the 2nd person of the Trinity was always the Son of the Father. He became the Son of Mary when he entered into creation in the Incarnation.

17 posted on 07/22/2010 10:38:38 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Salvation
The word “Credo” in Latin/Spanish, etc. has always meant “I believe.”

And for years, I've been quietly saying "I believe" instead of "We believe" during the Creed at Novus Ordo masses. Soon thankfully I will no longer be in "dissent" in continuing this practice ;-)

18 posted on 07/22/2010 11:57:13 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Campion
No, Sonship is an aspect of humility to the Father,as part of the Plan.

In eternity, the 2nd person was the Word, not the Son.

He became the Son after he was begotten.

19 posted on 07/23/2010 2:46:16 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Campion
The Son was not 'eternally begotten' he was begotten in time.

Begotten means to be created, the Word was not created.

It is those who teach an 'eternally begotten Son' that are teaching Arianism.

The Word was never begotten.

20 posted on 07/23/2010 2:49:32 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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