[Salvation]

This is an Ecumenical thread. Please follow the Religion Moderator's Guidelines for Ecumenical Threads

Ecumenical because more than the Catholic Church members recite the Nicene Creed.

[Salvation]

I can hardly wait for the new version (more like the Credo version) is said!

What about you?

Catholic Ping!

[Eagles6]

Thanks.

[johngrace]

Thats the new one at the end of the article. Oh! Thats more defined.

[fortheDeclaration]

The Son was not 'eternally begotten', he was begotten in time.(Ps.2)

Before the 2nd person of the Trinity became the Son, he was the Word and always existed with the Father,(Jn.1:1) as did the Holy Spirit.

[johngrace]

"he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man."

If thats it. Its more clear!

[bboop]

Speaking of ‘engraved in your brain from earliest times’ — I still say, “He descended into Hell” — which must be the old version of the Apostles’ Creed? I see it once in a while like that, but have to be careful to READ the Creed so that I don’t say it ‘wrong.’

[ken5050]

Print and read later

[giotto]

I like this version better:

Traditional (from the Ordo Missae) I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God. Born of the Father before all ages. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God. Begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father. By Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And He became flesh by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary: and was made man. He was also crucified for us, suffered under Pontius Pilate, and was buried. And on the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead. And of His kingdom there will be no end. And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, Who proceeds from the Father and the Son. Who together with the Father and Son is adored and glorified; and Who spoke through the Prophets. And one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. And I await the resurrection of the dead. And the life of the world to come. Amen.

[fortheDeclaration]

THE CREED OF NICAEA (325)... This was the original Nicene Creed. It was revised and finalized at the Council of Constantinople in 381... We believe in one God the Father All-sovereign, maker of all things. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, only-begotten, that is, of the substance of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten not made, of one substance with the Father, through whom all things were made, things in heaven and things on the earth; who for us men and for our salvation came down and was made flesh, and became man, suffered, and rose on the third day, ascended into the heavens, and is coming to judge living and dead. And in the Holy Spirit. And those that say 'There was when he was not,' and, 'Before he was begotten he was not,' and that, 'He came into being from what-is-not,' or those that allege, that the son of God is 'Of another substance or essence' or 'created,' or 'changeable' or 'alterable,' these the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathematizes.

The Original Creed doesn't say eternally begotten Son of God.

THE NICENE CREED (more properly called the Nicene-Constantinople Creed), came to us in its final form from the great Council of Constantinople in 381.

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.

http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/creeds.htm

[narses]

+

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

[NoRedTape]

Thank you for a most excellent post.

[narses]

+

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.