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To: GiovannaNicoletta
"Is there any evidence that the technology existed in 70AD to number everyone in the world, like God said, not the "Roman Empire" which God never mentioned?"

And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. Luke 2:1 (NKJV)

The same Greek word "oikoumene", which is used in Matthew 24:14 (translated world) is used in Luke 2. So tell me, when Caesar sent forth a proclamation that "all the world" shoukd be registered, was Caesar Augustus referring to those living in North, Central and South America? Was he referring to those living in China, Russia or Japan???

No: the decree went forth throughout the entire ROMAN EMPIRE because THAT'S WHAT CAESAR CONTROLLED!

That's what "oikoumene" means in Luke 2. It means the same thing in Matthew 24: the ROMAN EMPIRE: that's what "all the world" meant to the people living in Jesus' time!

Once you begin to understand that, the rest of the truth will begin to fall into place for you.

175 posted on 07/03/2010 3:59:12 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray
So now the Antichrist was Caesar Augustus? Was he thrown alive into the Lake of Fire by Jesus Christ? Where is that in the Bible?

The Bible, not all of your sacred man-written books.

And did all of your various Antichrists meet the following Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?

God tells us that the Antichrist will have an image that can speak:

He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive the mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666." (Revelations 13:11-18)

Which one of your list of old Roman Empire Antichrists forced everyone to receive a mark in their forehead or right hand and had the technology to create an image of himself that could speak? Where is the Scriptural evidence for that?

And God also tells us that the Antichrist will rule over the entire world, not just the Roman Empire:

And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. Then he opened his mouth in blaspheming against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. And it was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given to him over every tribe, tongue and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (Revelations 13:1-10)

Which one of your old Roman Empire Antichrists ruled over every tribe, tongue and nation? Where can we find that in Scripture?

Which one of your various Antichrists meets all of the Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?


183 posted on 07/03/2010 4:30:47 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Stingray
The same Greek word "oikoumene", which is used in Matthew 24:14 (translated world) is used in Luke 2. So tell me, when Caesar sent forth a proclamation that "all the world" shoukd be registered, was Caesar Augustus referring to those living in North, Central and South America? Was he referring to those living in China, Russia or Japan???

No: the decree went forth throughout the entire ROMAN EMPIRE because THAT'S WHAT CAESAR CONTROLLED!

That's what "oikoumene" means in Luke 2. It means the same thing in Matthew 24: the ROMAN EMPIRE: that's what "all the world" meant to the people living in Jesus' time!

Once you begin to understand that, the rest of the truth will begin to fall into place for you.

The same word is used in Acts 17:31, Romans 10:18, Hebrews 1:6, Hebrews 2:5, Revelation 3:10, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 16:14.

It would be a stretch in the least to read this word in these contexts and then to think that it meant the Roman empire.

Transliterated Word
Oikoumene
Phonetic Spelling
oy-kou-men'-ay

Definition
the inhabited earth
the portion of the earth inhabited by the Greeks, in distinction from the lands of the barbarians
the Roman empire, all the subjects of the empire
the whole inhabited earth,
the world
the inhabitants of the earth, men the universe, the world

207 posted on 07/03/2010 8:24:50 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
The same Greek word "oikoumene", which is used in Matthew 24:14 (translated world) is used in Luke 2. So tell me, when Caesar sent forth a proclamation that "all the world" shoukd be registered, was Caesar Augustus referring to those living in North, Central and South America? Was he referring to those living in China, Russia or Japan???

No: the decree went forth throughout the entire ROMAN EMPIRE because THAT'S WHAT CAESAR CONTROLLED!

That's what "oikoumene" means in Luke 2. It means the same thing in Matthew 24: the ROMAN EMPIRE: that's what "all the world" meant to the people living in Jesus' time!

Once you begin to understand that, the rest of the truth will begin to fall into place for you.

The same word is used in Acts 17:31, Romans 10:18, Hebrews 1:6, Hebrews 2:5, Revelation 3:10, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 16:14.

It would be a stretch in the least to read this word in these contexts and then to think that it meant the Roman empire.

Transliterated Word
Oikoumene
Phonetic Spelling
oy-kou-men'-ay

Definition
the inhabited earth
the portion of the earth inhabited by the Greeks, in distinction from the lands of the barbarians
the Roman empire, all the subjects of the empire
the whole inhabited earth,
the world
the inhabitants of the earth, men the universe, the world

208 posted on 07/03/2010 8:25:45 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Stingray; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

That’s merely speaking of Caeser’s arrogance about “all the world.”

We know that ALL THE WORLD WAS NOT REGISTERED.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT

. . . AT LEAST FOLKS WITH A RATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE LED OF HOLY SPIRIT INTO ALL THE TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE KNOWS

THAT

WHEN GOD SPEAKS OF ALL THE WORLD BEING REQUIRED TO HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST OR BE KILLED, GOD MEANS EXACTLY THAT.

And God is not likely amused by folks insisting HE MEANT SOMETHING ELSE! SHEESH!


231 posted on 07/03/2010 10:05:26 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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