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Are Mormons Christian? Inquiry into the Church of Latter Day Saints, a peculiarly American Religion
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Posted on 05/10/2010 7:41:06 PM PDT by delacoert

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1 posted on 05/10/2010 7:41:06 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert
I'm a Lutheran married to a Catholic, so I have no dog in this fight. Having said that, why are we going after the Mormons who usually vote very conservatively?
2 posted on 05/10/2010 7:44:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: delacoert
You should wish on your lucky stars that the only problem in America would be that everyone has the public behavior and publicly demonstrated values of the Mormon. I am Protestant, my wife is Catholic, and whatever these folks do on their Sabbath is up to them. They're not asking for welfare or bailouts. I don't understand the need for this post in a blatant attempt to ridicule the natural allies of what most folks on FR are all about.
3 posted on 05/10/2010 7:54:33 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: sefarkas

Who gets to decide whose a Christian? The Jesus police!


4 posted on 05/10/2010 8:01:34 PM PDT by Mr. Right Now
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To: delacoert

This anti-Mormon stuff is not only tiring, but patently incorrect and reeks of anti-Christian behavior. What ever happened to “love thy neighbor?”


5 posted on 05/10/2010 8:02:34 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: delacoert

I am a Christian and I have some Mormon friends and I find them to be very good people.

They work hard to provide to their families and they don’t bother others so I don’t have any issues with them.


6 posted on 05/10/2010 8:05:33 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: delacoert

They teach/have taught: Jesus is not Emmanuel, Adam is God, and Salvation is by Works
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what is this nonsense? I’ve never heard anyone, mormon or not, ever claim that adam is god. I


7 posted on 05/10/2010 8:09:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: delacoert

Are monophysites “Christians”?
Are Arians “Christians”?
Are Protestants “Christians”?
Are Eastern Orthodox “Christians”?
Are Catholics “Christians”?
Is the Pope “Christian”?
Or was Christ the only ever true “Christian”?
Who gets to anathematize if Christ did not “anathematize”?


8 posted on 05/10/2010 8:11:07 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: boycott

Apparently .. If your not Catholic, there are a number of folks on the forums that will do all they can to tear down other’s belief’s!

I see a lot of this .. Mormons, JW’s etc. etc.

Just TRY to say something negative about the Catholics and .. Your in for a fight!


9 posted on 05/10/2010 8:12:11 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: plinyelder

I tell ya who I can’t stand...those people that don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re”.

Curse those heathens!


10 posted on 05/10/2010 8:13:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Your a cad. And you’re posts are simply awful.

Curse those Bagginses.


12 posted on 05/10/2010 8:19:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: delacoert

The answer to the question. No Mormons are not Christian. At least “orthodox” that is. And I am not Christian but Jewish and I know that.


13 posted on 05/10/2010 8:27:06 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
You tell me:

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world"
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.

"Christians—those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about—some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men. The poor devils, they could not get up here and preach an oral discourse, to save themselves from hell; they are preaching their fathers' sermons —preaching sermons that were written a hundred years before they were born. ...You may get a Methodist priest to pour water on you, or sprinkle it on you, and baptize you face foremost, or lay you down the other way, and whatever mode you please, and you will be damned with your priest.
- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast."
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon."
- Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best." (John Taylor, JD 13:225)

"What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God." (John Taylor, JI) 13:225)

"Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

"...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the "Mormon's" Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions." (Brigham Young, JD 5:331)

"...the great apostate church as the anti-christ...This great antichrist...is the church of the devil." (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine p.40)

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness." (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

 

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”
- Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

1 Nephi 14:10 "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

"Orthodox Christian views of God are pagan rather than Christian" (Mormon Doctrine of Deity, B. H. Roberts [General Authority], 116).

Brigham Young: “…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

Mormon Apostle Hyrum M. Smith,- “In fact, my brethren and sisters, if the falsity of a religion can be measured in any degree by the amount of trouble and turmoil and strife and bitterness and hatred that it has engendered in the hearts of men, if it can be judged by the number of wars it has carried on and the rivers of blood it has shed, the amount of misery and sorrow, it has caused, or the extremes of impurity, found among its adherents, then Christianity, that which is known as Christianity, is the falsest of all religions in the world… The trouble is, as God declared to Joseph the Prophet, mankind have gone astray. Their religions are an abomination in his sight, and their professors are corrupt because they have turned away from the truth and have turned unto fables.” (Conference Report, October 1916, p.43).


14 posted on 05/10/2010 8:27:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MarkBsnr

ur definition of “cad” must be quite a doozy.


15 posted on 05/10/2010 8:29:36 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

At times, at times. :)


16 posted on 05/10/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very good question. I think the answer is that: as countries break up, many groups jockey mercilessly for power. I believe that is what we see here. Those who would in secure times coexist, turn on each other hoping to delay their demise.


17 posted on 05/10/2010 8:35:15 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Vendome

I think you need to quit reading all those mormon quotes and read your own tag line a couple more times.


18 posted on 05/10/2010 8:36:31 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ExpatGator

or yeah? well here’s a little gasoline for your fire then...

those catholics better quit praying to mary or they might get a nasty surprise in the afterlife.


19 posted on 05/10/2010 8:40:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

You stop pretending to be condescending.

It’s not your best suit and a terrible color for you.


20 posted on 05/10/2010 8:40:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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