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Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
The Fatima Challenge ^ | May 8, 2010 | christopher Ferrara

Posted on 05/08/2010 5:58:47 PM PDT by Irisshlass

Is There a Missing Text of the Third Secret?...Video at Link.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: catholic; fatima; vatican
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1 posted on 05/08/2010 5:58:47 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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2 posted on 05/08/2010 5:59:51 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Irisshlass
Is There a Missing Text of the Third Secret?...

I was surprised to read, just this week, that some Catholics believe that the Vatican didn't reveal the "real" third secret. Seriously, is there a group that actually thinks this?

The Third Secret of Fatima, at vatican.va

3 posted on 05/08/2010 6:06:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Irisshlass; SunkenCiv

If you go to the video you find there are 35 reasons why there is a missing text of the 3rd secret.

Call me crazy but I didn’t know there was even a possibility of a missing secret.


4 posted on 05/08/2010 6:18:06 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why is that so hard to believe?


5 posted on 05/08/2010 6:28:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Alex Murphy

Fatima is one of the most impregnable barriers between me and a return to Rome. Popular Catholic piety (”The Blue Army of our Lady of Fatima”) is indistinguishable from pagan goddess worship. This kind of piety, like Mormon piety, has the whiff of the demonic around it. Cursed are all those who promote other deities.


6 posted on 05/08/2010 6:30:42 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Alex Murphy
“As for the Secret, well I happen to be one of those individuals who thinks we didn’t get the whole thing.”

—Mother Angelica, on her live television show May 16, 2001

7 posted on 05/08/2010 6:36:40 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: wildbill

Watching the presentation, the expert says many in the Catholic church interpret the part of the third secret—given to little Lucia way back in 1917 —that IS revealed, to be the murder of the pope:

It follows:

The “bishop clothed in white, makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He, too, falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire.”

Another part of the secret that has been revealed is that the “faith will survive in Portugal”...implying it will ‘not’ elsewhere? Perhaps this is why the Lady appeared to deliver this message in Portugal? ( Assuming one subscribes to the entire premise in the first place? suspend judgement for a moment to consider)

It is eerie stuff, with Christianity under such assault and even the push to “arrest the pope” that is currently in vogue among some extreme atheist and intellectuals ( Hitchens and Dawkins most conspicuously) And again this was communicated in 1917.

Further, according to this very articulate and erudite Mr Ferrera, he ( and a growing number of others) firmly believes—and has forensically investigated in agonizing detail—that there does exist a second part to the message/secret....that is hidden intentionally by the Vatican, made up of 25 lines.

One wonders why it is sealed, hidden, even denied to exist—is it horrible too give exposure—too terrible a fait accomplait?

Mysterious.


8 posted on 05/08/2010 6:47:55 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Irisshlass; narses
Thanks for posting this! (And thanks, Narses, for the ping!)

There has been a great many cover-ups and whitewashings by the Vatican of the true warnings of Our Lady to the shepherd children!

I am not a graphics expert, but I have seen reasons for believing that the Vatican's "Third Secret" was not written in Sister Lucia's handwriting.

I should qualify that as the Sister Lucia who was one of the three shepherd visionaries -- since it may be that the Vatican also created a doppleganger of Sister Lucia to pose for photos with Pope John Paul II and to "verify" the Vatican's "Third Secret."

9 posted on 05/08/2010 6:52:30 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Irisshlass
Related threads:
On the Third Secret, "Fourth Secret(s)", and other visions of Fatima:
Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
'The Fourth Secret of Fatima': Is Pope Benedict's life in danger?
Marian Visionary Warns 2010 Start of Fatima Chastisement (Catholic Caucus ONLY)
Coast-2-Coast AM 10.09.08 Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets-
Fatima: Case Closed
Sister Lucia's Last Moments
Bertone shows original Third Fatima Secret letter on TV
Fatima: The secret's out, despite claims to the contrary
“The Fourth Secret of Fatima”
Two Popes, Two Books -- and Two Major Insights into Famed Third Fatima Secret
The Third Secret of Fatima
Papal Assailant Calls on Vatican to Reveal All Parts of Fatima Secret
Questions ... Regarding The Third Secret of Fatima
Telling Secrets on the Vatican (re: "Third Secret" of Fatima)
Alleged Third Secret Handwriting ... (Fatima, Sister Lucia)
"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

10 posted on 05/08/2010 6:53:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Perhaps it tells of the AntiChrist or False Prophet rising out of the Catholic church? I’m not Catholic, but hear me out here - if this were a revelation (which God would have allowed as a warning), the Catholic church would probably not want it public lest every pope be seen as an AntiChrist by the faithful.


11 posted on 05/08/2010 7:13:36 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

I’m not Catholic, either. I have heard of Fatima before and never knew what it was about. This has peaked my interest as a Christian....and certainly in the times we are in at the moment.


12 posted on 05/08/2010 7:27:33 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Any apparition must be subjected to the Scripture test, so keep that in mind when looking at Marian apparitions.


13 posted on 05/08/2010 7:40:49 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Thanks, blogger.


14 posted on 05/08/2010 7:45:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Probably the election of Obama.


15 posted on 05/08/2010 7:52:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: Irisshlass

It’s been my belief, that some of the third secret was revealed only on the papal level, but perhaps I’m wrong. It’s been a long time since I re-read materials and discussed Fatima in depth.


16 posted on 05/08/2010 7:53:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Irisshlass
Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
Top Ten Scientific Explantions of Miracle of Sun at Fatima (Catholic Caucus)
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part II
Fatima and Akita
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part I
The Story of Fatima -- Part 2
The Story of Faitma -- Part 1
Our Lady of Fatima, May 13
Litany of Our Lady of Fatima
Last Fatima child buried in final resting place (Sr. Maria's remains transferred to Fatima)
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP
LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97
Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies
Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)
Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97
Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam
Mystery Fatima: Death of Lucia Accents Famed Secrets & Area's Hidden History
"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

Papal praise at Sister Lucia's funeral
Our Lady of Fatima, ‘counterrevolutionary’ and ‘ecumenical’
Fatima Statue Due at Vatican to Mark a Fateful Day 25 Years After Attempt on John Paul II's Life
Sister Lucia's Unpublished Writings Released - Visionary Reflects on Marian Apparitions
Sister Lucia's Last Moments
Fatima: Case Closed
Rosary Rallies Planned for Fatima Anniversary [Catholic Caucus]
Giant new church at Fatima shrine
Sister Lucia's Beatification Process to Begin ( Pope Waves 5-Year Waiting Period)
The faithful remember miracle of Fatima, Thousands gather in Washington Twp. on 90th anniversary
Pius XII Saw "Miracle of the Sun" [Catholic Caucus]

17 posted on 05/08/2010 7:57:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Blogger

I believe you are mistaken in the authenticity judgments on an apparition.

Do you know what they are? And it’s not necessarily all in Scripture.

Remember the Catholic Church has Holy Tradition — and the Bible even talks about this Holy Tradition of truths being handed down from one person to another by mouth.


18 posted on 05/08/2010 8:03:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Irisshlass

This has been debunked by Sr. Lucia herself. Nothing to see.....move on.


19 posted on 05/08/2010 8:13:32 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RJR_fan

Apparitions are thoroughly investigated by the Vatican before they are approved. And they must cease before any judgment can be made at all.

I see no problem with sorting out all the details. If you are on the inside track here, please let us know. Otherwise, I believe it’s been thoroughly investigated. Have you read any of the books about Fatima?

Do you even know the names of the three children?


20 posted on 05/08/2010 8:18:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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