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To: wildbill

Watching the presentation, the expert says many in the Catholic church interpret the part of the third secret—given to little Lucia way back in 1917 —that IS revealed, to be the murder of the pope:

It follows:

The “bishop clothed in white, makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He, too, falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire.”

Another part of the secret that has been revealed is that the “faith will survive in Portugal”...implying it will ‘not’ elsewhere? Perhaps this is why the Lady appeared to deliver this message in Portugal? ( Assuming one subscribes to the entire premise in the first place? suspend judgement for a moment to consider)

It is eerie stuff, with Christianity under such assault and even the push to “arrest the pope” that is currently in vogue among some extreme atheist and intellectuals ( Hitchens and Dawkins most conspicuously) And again this was communicated in 1917.

Further, according to this very articulate and erudite Mr Ferrera, he ( and a growing number of others) firmly believes—and has forensically investigated in agonizing detail—that there does exist a second part to the message/secret....that is hidden intentionally by the Vatican, made up of 25 lines.

One wonders why it is sealed, hidden, even denied to exist—is it horrible too give exposure—too terrible a fait accomplait?

Mysterious.


8 posted on 05/08/2010 6:47:55 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Perhaps it tells of the AntiChrist or False Prophet rising out of the Catholic church? I’m not Catholic, but hear me out here - if this were a revelation (which God would have allowed as a warning), the Catholic church would probably not want it public lest every pope be seen as an AntiChrist by the faithful.


11 posted on 05/08/2010 7:13:36 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: cycle of discernment

Probably the election of Obama.


15 posted on 05/08/2010 7:52:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: cycle of discernment

Have you ever seen the artistic depiction of this? I believe it is on one of the Fatima links I posted.


21 posted on 05/08/2010 8:20:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cycle of discernment

I think I might be able to take a guess at why the second part of the secret was not revealed after the date of 1960, which was the year it was supposed to be revealed. It was a warning of punishment coming on the church and the world should the church stray from Jesus. The Pope in l960 refused to read the message. That timing would have happened two or three years prior to Vatican II and probably would have derailed Vatican II as we have known it.

As a teen I remember every previously repressed voice asserting itself; advocating for abortion, sex outside of marriage, divorce, feminist hatred of men and families, communism and even disrespect for or disbelief in Jesus. I was so broken hearted by all of this and although it lessened my attachment to the church, it never touched my relationship and love for Jesus. Vatican II untied the opposite of Jesus within the church and in my opinion, it has run on a rampage ever since.

We see it now resulting in the church suffering scandal (massive child sex and physical abuse) as the visionary warned. We even have wackos whipping up a murderous ideal for the Pope and I have no doubt there are plenty in Europe who would like to murder the people in the Vatican - including the Pope.

Pope John Paul thought or wanted the public to think that the part of the secret he revealed - the murder of the Pope - had been stopped in the attempted murder of himself. But I don’t think that was it. The murder of the Pope will happen in during Revelation’s chaos.


25 posted on 05/08/2010 11:18:43 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: cycle of discernment; SunkenCiv

You know of course that the neanderthals made their last stand in what is now Portugal. Remains have been found there that are the most recent of all Neanderthal remains.

Coincidence or part of a plan?

Mysterious.


45 posted on 05/09/2010 3:25:11 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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