Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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Actually,
I’ve been shockingly embarrassed for the Roman Catholic et al’s hereon
about all the hogwash they put forward as justification for their beliefs and practices. I’d be ashamed to show such irrationial, shallow, trumped up, silly stuff in public at midnight.
By pretending a link to Scripture they attempt to lend themselves credibility. Under this mantle they can then promote their idolatry and blasphemy.
That kind of setup has some pretty obvious fingerprints.
INDEED.
Actually I think that only Dr. E and I are on the ALWAYS relentlessly ATTACK THE MESSENGER list.
INDEED:
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Catholics do NOT have good arguments for what they believe. Their arguments are so weak and flimsy that you can drive a mack truck through the holes punched in them.
The teachings of the Catholic church on Mary do not have any basis in Scripture unless that Scripture is highly stretched to make it fit.
Their devotion to Mary is admirable rather based solely on their loyalty to the Catholic church, not to the fidelity of the Bible.
Without
their authorized rubber “bible,” they’d be far up the Tiber without a paddle.
That’s outrageous.
The most intellectually, factually, logically dishonest folks I’ve ever met in such discussions have been from the rabid cliques of Roman Catholics et al hereon.
What they offer for evidence would not have sufficied as quality references in my Jr High English classes.
And I am in total agreement with that statement. I was being ironical, too.
My main beef with any religion - not just Roman Catholic - is that if they have to stretch, twist, snippet, add to, mangle or "interpret" so that it agrees with their specific dogma, and not the other way around, then it is not being honest with God's revealed word.
A good example is the intent of the original post that fostered this thread - Give your all to...?. It is so telling, to me, that certain religious Freepers have to strenuously defend their dogmatic teaching EVEN at the expense of what is clearly stated in scripture for all to see. That we are to "love the Lord our God with ALL our hearts, minds and souls (strength)" and that to him be ALL glory, praise and honor.
WRONG.
Perhaps you are in an alternate universe somewhere.
THAT NOISE you asserted is Not at all what I’ve observed hereon.
“Additionally, the Church has NEVER suggested that the mother of God is a goddess.”
Additionally, if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and is worshiped like a goddess...
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Exactly. What Rome did was take a pagan religion and change some of the names to Christian names. An unholy marrying of Christianity and Satanism.
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TOO true.
And no doubt they were highly offended at His perfect disregard of their !!!TRADITIONS!!! And no doubt they were highly offended at His perfect disregard of their !!!TRADITIONS!!!
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INDEED.
THX.
a GREAT ONE.
THX.
ROTFLOL.
AMEN! AMEN!
THX
BOATBUMS FOR CHRIST—ALL FOR CHRIST ALONE.
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. -- Exodus 20:12
Are you saying that Jesus Christ did not fulfill the Law perfectly every day of his life?
Are you saying that he sinned? Not to honor his mother is a sin, according to the Law of Moses. The word translated "honor" literally means in Hebrew "bestow glory upon".
Incidentally, did you know that you are Jesus' younger brother? It's true: Romans 8:29.
What does that make Mary to you? A nice lady? Guess again.
I think you’re distorting things a bit but this is not the thread to haggle about them on.
Holy Spirit is NOT at all hindered in doing miracles in this era any more than He was 2000 years ago, imho.
I much appreciate most of your great points.
Well, then, the Catholic Church is remiss in not teaching its adherents properly, because there’s a huge number of Catholics walking around Western NY who believe like I’ve stated. If they don’t believe the RCC correctly, then their eternal destiny is at stake and just whose responsibility would that be if not the church which didn’t teach them correctly?
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Do you have a citation on that?
It doesn't much matter, but I'm curious.
Origen was a heretic anyway; he believed that the Devil and his angels could perhaps be saved someday, and he also castrated himself.
All I know is that when Helvidius claimed that Mary had other (biological) children in the 4th C., both Jerome and the Pope of Rome at the time violently rejected his error.
As did both Luther and Calvin, much later of course.
WELL PUT. about Virtue.
THX.
Thanks for your kind words.
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