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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: Outership

If you were really serious to debate for knowledge that would be reasonable but to just want to argue for the sake of arguing. Whats the use in that. It’s like you believe the Bible fell from the sky in perfect english someone found it then said eureka went and told everyone else - end of argument. The Bible came together 300 years later. First came the Church then the individual writings that had to be separated from several dozen phony so called Gospels so they had a meeting to make a genuine complete book. Thats a historical fact. But if we debate just to argue only -Whats the point. May God Bless you all - have a Good Night


281 posted on 04/30/2010 6:54:33 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Outership
CCC1323 "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the ages until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet 'in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us.'"
"While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body" --Matt 26:26.

"We should never again use the expression, 'When Jesus was on earth' or think of Him as being only in heaven, Jesus is still on earth." ... "While all the sacraments confer grace, the Eucharist contains the author of grace, Jesus Christ Himself" --Fr. John Hardon, S.J.

282 posted on 04/30/2010 6:57:32 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
By whose sayso?

You would have to click the link to read about St. Padre Pio. Not all that many people have received the stigmata. His is a very special story.
283 posted on 04/30/2010 6:59:57 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

How is what happened to him any different than alien abduction tales?

The Bible says that we will know those that belong to Him by their fruits.

If Pio was saying, teaching, promoting things that were against scripture then he most certainly wasn’t filled with the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere in Scripture are bleeding wounds shown as being a message from God. No message from God has ever been close to that.

As for apparitions, fallen angels can appear to men as whatever they want to appear as.

The Bible warns us not to be fooled by signs and wonders.

All that matters in determining if Pio was a Christian is to examine his fruits and compare them to Scripture. If he was following and obeying Christ as instructed in the Bible, and he was not following any doctrines of men or demons, then we will know he was God’s as well as we can.


284 posted on 04/30/2010 7:03:04 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: roamer_1

Incredibly, wonderfully put.


285 posted on 04/30/2010 7:06:11 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: roamer_1

And Mystery Babylon has a role to play very soon.


286 posted on 04/30/2010 7:08:49 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Outership

I have absolutely no doubt he would mirror Christ’s words,

“Get away from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you”.


287 posted on 04/30/2010 7:10:32 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mlizzy

Pio did not ask it if Christ came in the flesh.

It’s goal was to lend credence to anti-Christian concepts. Therefore, the evidence says that it was from Satan.


288 posted on 04/30/2010 7:12:29 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: mlizzy

Oh? So Christ is into deception?


289 posted on 04/30/2010 7:14:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: roamer_1

Hahaha! Terrific!

I hope this also validates a love of NASCAR.


290 posted on 04/30/2010 7:14:44 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: metmom
Precisely, exactly, but you saw that silliness called the Gospel of Thomas and the catechism. “New Eve, Meditrix, instructor of the apostles....Mary wouldn't recognize herself.
291 posted on 04/30/2010 7:18:33 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mlizzy
"A few weeks later, on September 20, 1918, Padre Pio was praying in the choir loft in the Church of Our Lady of Grace, when the same Being who appeared to him on August 5, appeared again. It was the wounded Christ. When the ecstasy ended, Padre Pio had received the Visible Stigmata, the five wounds of Christ, which would stay with him for his remaining 50 years" --St. Padre Pio

Do you believe everything someone tells you?

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

If it doesn't agree with Scripture, it's not of God.

292 posted on 04/30/2010 7:20:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: johngrace

I’m not into whatever sport the Mets are playing, unless it’s hockey.


293 posted on 04/30/2010 7:23:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

“Register” me as well! My knee bows and my tongue has confessed that Jesus Christ is LORD to the glory of God the Father! There is NO OTHER NAME given under heaven whereby we must be saved. Amen!!!

Jesus himself said no one comes to the Father but by him. I will take him at his word! All to Jesus I surrender!


294 posted on 04/30/2010 7:24:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: metmom
The Eucharist in Scripture. Link

CCC on the Eucharist. Link

Saints on the Eucharist. Link
295 posted on 04/30/2010 7:25:50 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Outership; mlizzy
Signs and wonders occur in the bible when God wants to prove that He is God. They manifested when the Israelites were taken, by God, out of Egypt, and again in the NT, when God took for himself, a people out of the Gentile nations.

Other than the Resurrection, Jesus said, no sign will be given.

What exactly would be the purpose of having some individual manifest these signs?

296 posted on 04/30/2010 7:27:36 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


297 posted on 04/30/2010 7:31:46 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: metmom

“If it doesn’t agree with Scripture, it’s not of God.”

The gist of the matter, the touch stone of belief.


298 posted on 04/30/2010 7:32:41 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: johngrace

“If you were really serious to debate for knowledge that would be reasonable...”

Please let me know what tea leaves you read or what crystal ball you consulted to get the “knowledge” that I am not serious about this issue. It looks like you need fresh batteries for it. If it were me, I’d return it as sorcery is forbidden.

“...but to just want to argue for the sake of arguing.”

Is that why you’re here? Because, you can only know about yourself. Your statement above appears to be projection.

“Whats the use in that.”

Indeed. Please let us know.

“It’s like you believe the Bible fell from the sky in perfect English someone found it then said eureka went and told everyone else - end of argument.”

Is this your way of saying the argument should now be about the inerrancy of the Word? Or are you trying to imply that the Romeians wrote the Bible. If the latter is the case than how come the Bible shows Rome to be anti-Christian?

“The Bible came together 300 years later. First came the Church then the individual writings that had to be separated from several dozen phony so called Gospels so they had a meeting to make a genuine complete book.”

None of the above is true. Romeians didn’t come around until centuries after Christ. The Body of Christ had the Bible put to paper way before the first Pope donned his hat. Copies of the Bible books can be found on paper from right up to the time the New Testament authors were still alive.

“Thats a historical fact.”

Well, I guess because you declared it, then it must be true. After all, your other posts on this thread have been true... oh wait, they weren’t, sorry...

“But if we debate just to argue only -Whats the point.”

I accept your defeat and unconditional surrender. However, my goal was to preach the Word and bring the truth of Christ my King into the lives of all who read my posts. And I did it without a single cat picture. I pray that He will bring you out of Rome and to Him.

“May God Bless you all - have a Good Night”

May God bless you too and I pray you have a good night too.


299 posted on 04/30/2010 7:35:07 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: metmom

You and a cast of thousands.

And the hollow wail that “they weren’t correctly taught the Catechism” is absurd with a huge percentage of them.


300 posted on 04/30/2010 7:35:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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