Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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Origen was among the first to point out it was a fake and also discounted the notion that Mary did not have any other children. The Protoevangelium of James was very popular because of a desire to know of Jesus' early life.
The ignorance of Jewish life is another indication of it being a forgery.
However, the desire for a Mother goddess has always been popular.
Do not get personal, Father Flapdoodle frowns , forehead furrowed, frightfully, forthwith, following fruitless fussilades.
Not only that, it's against the rules.
You didn’t answer the original question and now the other questions.
Where’s the Scripture to back up the contention that anyone “ who dares to slight or offend GOD’s mother.” should not presume to hope for the mercy of God?
Where’d that blasphemy come from? Where in Scripture is it said that our receiving God’s mercy is dependent on our opinion or treatment of Mary?
You’re accusing of not being intellectually honest and you can’t even intellectually answer a question?
Changing the subject to avoid answering the question is not intellectually honest.
Answer the questions.
"We should never again use the expression, 'When Jesus was on earth' or think of Him as being only in heaven, Jesus is still on earth." ... "While all the sacraments confer grace, the Eucharist contains the author of grace, Jesus Christ Himself" --Fr. John Hardon, S.J.
Mmhaha. Checkmate.
“Where 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name, there I am”.
I think it was a road paved with good intentions. Also, I'm sure the periodic persecutions influenced a desire to "mainstream" the faith. The problem is no matter the good intentions the result is a step away from the Christianity that Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior gave us.
Jesus said He was the Bread of Life. Does that mean He looked like a loaf of bread?
He said He was the gate. Does that mean He was made of wood?
He said, *I am the true vine*... Does that mean He was green and leafy?
“Jesus Loves His mother, and has allowed her on many occasion to “visit.” That some wish to ignore these facts ...”
Where exactly are you getting these “facts”? Please post them so I can see them.
““Always keep close to Our Heavenly Mother, because She is the sea that must be crossed, in order to reach the shores of eternal splendor, in the Kingdom of Dawn” —St. Padre Pio, stigmatist”
If Pio here is counting on “Mary” for his salvation, he will surely be more than disappointed. For his sake, I pray he was talking about his vacation to the Caribbean. (oh and that prayer went to God btw).
If the Eucharist actually becomes the body and blood of Christ during the mass, then what’s the white wafer the priest holds up?
That doesn’t look like flesh and blood to me as you claim it becomes during the mass.
Yes! Good point. It is a matter of faith to believe that God is really right there. The most awe-inspiring realization, and it could make someone afraid, until we remember that he is an infinitely loving God, so different from most of our strictly human experience.
We don't need to be afraid of him (except for fear in the Proverbs sense). We don't need a go-between. Hallelujah!
To get the common people on their side (and their ONLY interest was in "tribute" or taxes, to incorporate them and their nations into the beast that was (is) Rome, they practiced syncretism, worship your idols, only, call them by our gods' names, so therefore Venus is Mary, Zeus is God, etc.
LOL. How dare an officer of Rome be questioned. Heretic! Onto the rack with you!
By the way, I am looking forward to these “good arguments” I keep hearing about but still aren’t finding among the Maryian posts here.
I’m sure the Mary, the sea that must be crossed to reach the kingdom of Dawn is the way to get there, because only Jesus leads to heaven.
If he’s counting on Mary to get him somewhere, he’s not going to be happy where he ends up. Calling hell by another name isn’t going to help and trusting anyone but Christ to get you somewhere won’t get you to heaven.
The Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny were not entered into Cannon. Does that mean there is a good case for them being real?
It sounds like you are agreeing with me lol.
What is in the Word is in there and anything else is either a doctrine of man or a doctrine of demons and Christ said to flee from both of those.
That doesn’t look like flesh and blood to me as you claim it becomes during the mass."My Jesus! What a lovable contrivance this holy Sacrament was - that You would hide under the appearance of bread to make Yourself loved and to be available for a visit by anyone who desires You!" - St. Alphonsus Ligouri. [emphasis; mine]
You see our mistake is appealing to the Bible. Only appeals to the Romeble are acceptable.
You know you have the right one when you see the word ‘penance’ used in place of the word ‘repent’.
I hear the word ‘Jesus’ is replaced with the word ‘Mary’, too.
And depending on the edition the entire writings of Paul are either removed or scrawled in crayon.
This works too:
Personally ,I think many Catholics are misguided and ignorant- mostly just weak in following others wanting to belong to the crowd in forums like FR . They are not knowingly hateful,although there are a few who are hateful knowingly who are like demons-most are just spiritually blind like cafeteria Catholics
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