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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: Quix

Haha you should also start up an “attack the messenger” list to go with the strawman list.


221 posted on 04/30/2010 5:21:57 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Bwahahaha!


222 posted on 04/30/2010 5:22:46 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: 1000 silverlings; mlizzy
Sorry, Jesus said no more signs, other than the Resurrection, will be given.

So, the Ascension, the Pentecost, various Apostolic miracles and the revelations to the Apostles didn't happen?

223 posted on 04/30/2010 5:23:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Exactly


224 posted on 04/30/2010 5:23:30 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Outership

On the otherside of the same token you can say they did not have to go to the bathroom in the New Testament too. Its not a accurate way of thinking.


225 posted on 04/30/2010 5:24:34 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: RnMomof7

Absolutely right. Loved every word. Thanks.


226 posted on 04/30/2010 5:24:52 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Praise God!


227 posted on 04/30/2010 5:25:50 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: johngrace
We'll try again then.....Focus here. Try to stay on topic.

Post 193 by jg: Then it is too late to correct the injustice done to the Mother of GOD. St. Louis Marie Grignion de Montfort said it best in his book ‘True Devotion to Mary’, “Let no one presume to hope for the mercy of GOD, who dares to slight or offend GOD’s mother.”

Post 194 by mm:Got some Scripture to back that up?

Irrelevant to the topic post 205 by jg:Now what about ‘honor thy father and thy mother’? Don’t you think He kept that one too?

Do you have any Scripture to back up this guy's contention that anyone " who dares to slight or offend GOD’s mother." should not presume to hope for the mercy of God? Where'd that blasphemy come from? Where in Scripture is it said that our receiving God's mercy is dependent on our opinion or treatment of Mary?

228 posted on 04/30/2010 5:27:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
There you have it. The Resurrected Christ is not Mary. what is so hard to understand?
229 posted on 04/30/2010 5:27:38 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom

Hahaha! Too right! That’s great.


230 posted on 04/30/2010 5:30:03 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I’ve got stuff to do tonight and I will be gone all day tomorrow, I’ll be back Sunday afternoon.


231 posted on 04/30/2010 5:31:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; blue-duncan

Praise God, Sunday’s coming!


232 posted on 04/30/2010 5:32:04 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: johngrace

Catholics do NOT have good arguments for what they believe. Their arguments are so weak and flimsy that you can drive a mack truck through the holes punched in them.

The teachings of the Catholic church on Mary do not have any basis in Scripture unless that Scripture is highly stretched to make it fit.

Their devotion to Mary is admirable rather based solely on their loyalty to the Catholic church, not to the fidelity of the Bible.


233 posted on 04/30/2010 5:32:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I agree 100%!


234 posted on 04/30/2010 5:33:29 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Outership

Odd how they appeal to Scripture to back up their doctrine no matter how convoluted or read into, but when others appeal to Scripture, it’s not good enough.


235 posted on 04/30/2010 5:34:34 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Your the one who needs to focus. You do not want to be intellectually honest. You want to act like a clown go ahead!


236 posted on 04/30/2010 5:39:20 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Quix
Yet, the same folks are rabidly ready to ascribe to Prottys hate we don’t feel, hate we don’t have.

Personally ,I think many anti Catholics are misguided and ignorant- mostly just weak in following others wanting to belong to the crowd in forums like FR . They are not knowingly hateful,although there are a few who are hateful knowingly who are like demons-most are just spiritually blind like cafeteria Catholics

237 posted on 04/30/2010 5:39:39 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: wagglebee

“If “sola scriptura” was mentioned in Scripture..”

It is repeated in the Bible several times that the Word is to be searched and is good for instruction.

It is also repeated several times in the Bible that the doctrines of man and the doctrines of demons are to be completely avoided and are bad for instruction.

Well, after removing the last two from consideration, the only thing left is the Bible, hence, learn from the Word alone.

“Additionally, the Church has NEVER suggested that the mother of God is a goddess.”

Additionally, if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and is worshiped like a goddess...


238 posted on 04/30/2010 5:39:45 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: wagglebee

Not being entered into the canon means it cannot be treated as though it were.
Peter said there were “artfully contrived stories” that some were paying attention but that the God inspired canon was the only writing that was trustworthy. (2 Peter 1:16-21)


239 posted on 04/30/2010 5:41:52 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: wmfights

Exactly. What Rome did was take a pagan religion and change some of the names to Christian names. An unholy marrying of Christianity and Satanism.


240 posted on 04/30/2010 5:42:29 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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