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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

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To: wagglebee
Not entered into canon DOES NOT mean it was fake.

Origen was among the first to point out it was a fake and also discounted the notion that Mary did not have any other children. The Protoevangelium of James was very popular because of a desire to know of Jesus' early life.

The ignorance of Jewish life is another indication of it being a forgery.

However, the desire for a Mother goddess has always been popular.

241 posted on 04/30/2010 5:43:04 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: johngrace; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
You want to act like a clown go ahead!

Do not get personal, Father Flapdoodle frowns , forehead furrowed, frightfully, forthwith, following fruitless fussilades.

Not only that, it's against the rules.

242 posted on 04/30/2010 5:44:26 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: johngrace

You didn’t answer the original question and now the other questions.

Where’s the Scripture to back up the contention that anyone “ who dares to slight or offend GOD’s mother.” should not presume to hope for the mercy of God?

Where’d that blasphemy come from? Where in Scripture is it said that our receiving God’s mercy is dependent on our opinion or treatment of Mary?


243 posted on 04/30/2010 5:44:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: johngrace

You’re accusing of not being intellectually honest and you can’t even intellectually answer a question?

Changing the subject to avoid answering the question is not intellectually honest.

Answer the questions.


244 posted on 04/30/2010 5:45:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Outership
Wow. Look how far down in that process one would have to go to get to Christ.

What folly! Do you feel Christ is no longer on this earth? "While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body" --Matt 26:26.
"We should never again use the expression, 'When Jesus was on earth' or think of Him as being only in heaven, Jesus is still on earth." ... "While all the sacraments confer grace, the Eucharist contains the author of grace, Jesus Christ Himself" --Fr. John Hardon, S.J.

245 posted on 04/30/2010 5:48:06 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Mmhaha. Checkmate.


246 posted on 04/30/2010 5:48:37 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: mlizzy

“Where 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name, there I am”.


247 posted on 04/30/2010 5:49:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Outership
What Rome did was take a pagan religion and change some of the names to Christian names. An unholy marrying of Christianity and Satanism.

I think it was a road paved with good intentions. Also, I'm sure the periodic persecutions influenced a desire to "mainstream" the faith. The problem is no matter the good intentions the result is a step away from the Christianity that Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior gave us.

248 posted on 04/30/2010 5:50:08 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: mlizzy; Outership

Jesus said He was the Bread of Life. Does that mean He looked like a loaf of bread?

He said He was the gate. Does that mean He was made of wood?

He said, *I am the true vine*... Does that mean He was green and leafy?


249 posted on 04/30/2010 5:53:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mlizzy

“Jesus Loves His mother, and has allowed her on many occasion to “visit.” That some wish to ignore these facts ...”

Where exactly are you getting these “facts”? Please post them so I can see them.

““Always keep close to Our Heavenly Mother, because She is the sea that must be crossed, in order to reach the shores of eternal splendor, in the Kingdom of Dawn” —St. Padre Pio, stigmatist”

If Pio here is counting on “Mary” for his salvation, he will surely be more than disappointed. For his sake, I pray he was talking about his vacation to the Caribbean. (oh and that prayer went to God btw).


250 posted on 04/30/2010 5:54:56 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: mlizzy

If the Eucharist actually becomes the body and blood of Christ during the mass, then what’s the white wafer the priest holds up?

That doesn’t look like flesh and blood to me as you claim it becomes during the mass.


251 posted on 04/30/2010 5:55:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wmfights
really is the product of a lack of faith.

Yes! Good point. It is a matter of faith to believe that God is really right there. The most awe-inspiring realization, and it could make someone afraid, until we remember that he is an infinitely loving God, so different from most of our strictly human experience.

We don't need to be afraid of him (except for fear in the Proverbs sense). We don't need a go-between. Hallelujah!

252 posted on 04/30/2010 5:55:44 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; the_conscience; Quix; Marysecretary
Sorry Bro, not a road paved with anything but crucified Christians. Rome's strength in building an empire was to subjugate, brutally, all opposers, and they lined their Via Appias with our people. We are Israel, they are Esau.

To get the common people on their side (and their ONLY interest was in "tribute" or taxes, to incorporate them and their nations into the beast that was (is) Rome, they practiced syncretism, worship your idols, only, call them by our gods' names, so therefore Venus is Mary, Zeus is God, etc.

253 posted on 04/30/2010 5:58:07 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: johngrace; metmom

LOL. How dare an officer of Rome be questioned. Heretic! Onto the rack with you!

By the way, I am looking forward to these “good arguments” I keep hearing about but still aren’t finding among the Maryian posts here.


254 posted on 04/30/2010 5:59:22 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Outership

I’m sure the Mary, the sea that must be crossed to reach the kingdom of Dawn is the way to get there, because only Jesus leads to heaven.

If he’s counting on Mary to get him somewhere, he’s not going to be happy where he ends up. Calling hell by another name isn’t going to help and trusting anyone but Christ to get you somewhere won’t get you to heaven.


255 posted on 04/30/2010 5:59:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

The Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny were not entered into Cannon. Does that mean there is a good case for them being real?


256 posted on 04/30/2010 6:01:49 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: johngrace

It sounds like you are agreeing with me lol.

What is in the Word is in there and anything else is either a doctrine of man or a doctrine of demons and Christ said to flee from both of those.


257 posted on 04/30/2010 6:05:01 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: metmom
Miracle at LancianoThat doesn’t look like flesh and blood to me as you claim it becomes during the mass.

Have you read about the Miracle of Lanciano? Link
"My Jesus! What a lovable contrivance this holy Sacrament was - that You would hide under the appearance of bread to make Yourself loved and to be available for a visit by anyone who desires You!" - St. Alphonsus Ligouri. [emphasis; mine]

258 posted on 04/30/2010 6:12:02 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: metmom

You see our mistake is appealing to the Bible. Only appeals to the Romeble are acceptable.

You know you have the right one when you see the word ‘penance’ used in place of the word ‘repent’.

I hear the word ‘Jesus’ is replaced with the word ‘Mary’, too.

And depending on the edition the entire writings of Paul are either removed or scrawled in crayon.


259 posted on 04/30/2010 6:14:14 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: stfassisi

This works too:

Personally ,I think many Catholics are misguided and ignorant- mostly just weak in following others wanting to belong to the crowd in forums like FR . They are not knowingly hateful,although there are a few who are hateful knowingly who are like demons-most are just spiritually blind like cafeteria Catholics


260 posted on 04/30/2010 6:17:02 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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