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To: SkyDancer

If ‘other’ faiths have been altered as you say then why did Joseph Smith Jr. incorporate those so-called errors in his re-translation of the Bible? He also incorporated those same errors in the BOM .... so the BOM is not all that accurate either ....

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The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds.

These scriptures came from the Lord to His living anointed servants; prophets/apostles during the various dispensations... even the Lord made know several times in his scriptures “do not add or subtract” and even to Paul Gal the Lord in a revelation came to Paul….

This is the reason for restoration in the Latter days.


276 posted on 03/09/2010 10:30:40 AM PST by restornu (The Gospel is here to comfort the afflicted and to afflict the comfortable)
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To: restornu
The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds.

Then why does the LDS use the Bible to prove their point but refutes the Bible when it disagrees with the LDS view?

The LDS has redefined every Christian ideology. Who does the LDS say Jesus is? You redefine who He is. Your LDS version of Jesus is not the Christian view of Jesus.

278 posted on 03/09/2010 10:35:57 AM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: restornu
...“do not add or subtract”...

Then why did the LdS do this very thing in the JST of the Bible?

287 posted on 03/09/2010 2:56:21 PM PST by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: restornu; SkyDancer
The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds

That really torques me off! The Bible is not to be "used" to "define" your (or anyone's) twisted, perverted creed.

294 posted on 03/09/2010 3:43:51 PM PST by T Minus Four (Christians follow Christ, not other Christians.)
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To: restornu
 
The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds.
 
 
 
 

Here is MORMONism's own creed - it is NOT universal :
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


304 posted on 03/09/2010 4:59:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu; SkyDancer

. even the Lord made know .several times in his scriptures “do not add or subtract” ..

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Yet the LDS ‘add or subtract’ all the time!

Consistency, resty.


320 posted on 03/09/2010 6:20:29 PM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: restornu; T Minus Four; SkyDancer

The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds.

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And THIS is exactly what Joseph Smith did, twisted scripture to define his own man made doctrines!

Again, consistency, Resty.


321 posted on 03/09/2010 6:23:24 PM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: restornu; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; BearRepublic81; Birmingham Rain; ...

I cry, “foul” !

This sad, twisted wreckage of human thought is exactly the soul-killing, spiritual poison that Joseph Smith handed out. It sounds so reasonable with the use of the word "universal". It seems so beckoning with its apparent generosity of "belongs to any group or faith". But these are layers of sugarcoating on the poison center. The wickedness at the center is in the lie that the Bible is a remnant of manuscripts that have been corrupted by evildoers with their manmade creeds.

This is a lie that cannot withstand sustained scrutiny of any type. But it is a lie that keeps the deceived from looking.

No Christian heart can ever abide this lie.

454 posted on 03/10/2010 9:13:01 PM PST by delacoert
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To: restornu
The Bible is universal it does not belong to anyone group or faith but to many who used the scriptures to define their own creeds.

The JST is NOT uniuversal; even among MORMONs!

The Rlds folks OWN the copyright!


(ex-RLDS folks - they have changed their name to Community of Christ)

483 posted on 03/11/2010 2:28:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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