Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?

Me

[the_conscience]

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?

[Judith Anne]

They all look so happy and proud! Hmmmmmm......I wonder who the image is?

[MarkBsnr]

You know, 'gin' was originally called "Geneva Spirits".

Yes I do. That's why I brought it up. That's why Calvin's face looks like it does in all of his pictures.

I'm sure this is the key to something very important that they are trying to hide from us

Drunk as lords. How else can you explain the Institutes?

[Quix]

UNMITIGATED DUPLICITOUS NONSENSE.

Roman Catholics et al/ Vatican associates et al

WAIL TO THE MAX,
WHINE TO THE MAX,
REND THEIR CLOTHES AND THROW DUST IN THE AIR TO THE MAX

IF

an Protty so much as says that they think Mary’s finger nails are a little long in this or that painting . . .

or that

Mary had a hair or two a little out of place in this or that painting

or that

Mary’s hanky in this or that painting was not bleached quite white enough.

Why then there’s all manner of horrendously rabidly hostile uproar

about all the “ROMAN CATHOLIC HATE MONGERS” saying such

“HORRENDOUSLY BLASPHEMOUS THINGS”

about REVERED/ADORED/VENERATED [but NEVER worshipped /s]

Heavenly Jr goddess/MOTHER OF GAWD Mary.

Yet when a very super rationial; super courteous; super prayerful; super authentic Christian like Angel-Gal

merely asserts that her spirit is grieved, her spirit is troubled, her heart/ mind are aghast . . . or the like

when ANYONE OR ANYTHING is placed on a CROSS vs THE ONE WHO RODE THE CROSS FOR ALL MANKIND AND ALL CREATION . . .

THEN THERE’S STILL HOSTILITY, irrational hogwash to the max; irrational hostile accusation to the max; insufferable haughty wording to the max etc.

Leaves one kind of with the impression that all Roman Catholic/Vatican Parochial schools must automatically grant at least Masters’ degrees in

“PRISSY, NARROW, RIGID, HAUGHTY, SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS TO THE MAX”

[MarkBsnr]

There are multiple versions of this art (?) form all over Europe. This one's in Geneva, and it's the centerpiece of a wall some 100 yards long, all covered with more idolatrous depictions of various Reformers.

Since many of the American Reformers have never been further than the county line in their entire lives, how would you expect them to know that?

And even if they did, the excuse making from the top is rather involved, since the theology is indefensible.

[MarkBsnr]

Check out post 5591 before you go any further...

[AnAmericanMother]

Of all things, they've got Old Nod, Oliver Cromwell, on the wall. Capable general, ruthless dictator, exterminator of Irish and Scots as well as members of his own team . . . but hardly a religious reformer!

I guess when you have 100 yards of wall to fill up, you can't be too choosy.

[Quix]

That blasphemous picture says to me . . .

that some idiot artist and those applauding same

have no clue about Biblical and Godly priorities and the

EXCLUSIVE PLACE OF JESUS THE CHRIST IN THE REDEMPTION OF MAN AND OF ALL CREATION.

Should be interesting when queried by The Father or by Christ as to why someone would put Mary in such a juxtaposition with the cross and the whole world.

In terms of a pic and a thousand words . . . that thousand words must require about a trillion words to dance around and rationalize.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

you have an excellent point, but ya gotta know by now his listening skills are only rivaled by Mr. Magoo’s vision

[Judith Anne]

Anything is possible.

When I think of the literally thousands of anti-Catholic posts on the Religion Forum, I wonder...

Our Father which art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

For the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory are Yours, now and forever.

Amen.

[AnAmericanMother]

Did you notice that in the other statue of Calvin, he's holding his Bible (or his Institutes) the exact same way, with his Hawaiian Love Sign finger as a bookmark?

These statues must be based on a common source, maybe a portraiticon. I'll go see if I can hunt it out.

[MarkBsnr]

Of all things, they've got Old Nod, Oliver Cromwell, on the wall. Capable general, ruthless dictator, exterminator of Irish and Scots as well as members of his own team . . . but hardly a religious reformer!

I'm sure that when he had a bunch of Catholics lined up to be shot, there was a chorus of Pater Nosters. He inspired much religious activity. Cromwell liked the sight of blood and wasn't too choosy about whose it was as long as it wasn't his.

[MarkBsnr]

You’re just saying that because it’s true.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Bless you for your efforts, JA; and you peacefulness of spirit is both refreshing and speaks volumes above those whose points are so profound they can’t do without yelling

[vladimir998]

Oh, look another rant from Quix.

Doesn’t actually refute anything we posted because we apparently know more than he does (as per usual) so he just rants.

[Judith Anne]

I really struggle to follow Christ’s command. I do not always succeed, due to my sinful nature.

Yet! I pray...and I thank you for your many kindnesses.

[Judith Anne]

Really, Vlad, let’s all just pray for the poor fellow.

[Quix]

Sounds like someone needs new glasses.

I don't see such a shadow at all.

IF there's any shadow vis a vis Mary and the Cross,

it's IMPLIED . . . and it would be

THAT THE CROSS IS

IN THE SHADOW

OF MARY'S
ARTISTICALLY EMPHASIZED
'HIGHER PRIORITY' PERSONAGE/BODY!

MORE UNMITIGATED BRAZEN BLASPHEMY.

THE ONLY shadow clearly in the pic is on the underside of the right parts of the globe. THERE IS NO Mary standing in the SHADOW of THE CROSS in that pic. More rubber rationalizations from the Roman Catholics et al's rabid cliques, it seems.

Of course, none are so blind as those who refuse to see big red barn doors.

However, I think Prottys should be thankful for such extreme, brazen examples of idolatry. It should help the lurkers discern all the easier about all the

rationalizing and fancy dancing around the facts.

Of course, some will probably claim that this pic or this author or this website do not have the RED WAX SEAL of the Pope and the Magicsterical so it can't be

TRULY, AUTHENTICALLY, ABSOLUTELY, 100% THOROUGHLY, PRISTINELY KOSHER ROMAN CATHOLIC/VATICAN DOGMA ETC. ETC. ETC.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, so . . . where are the public pronouncements and demands from the Vatican to remove the pic and/or remove any hint of any association with the Roman Catholic Institution and related congregations?

Uhhhhh, welll, uhhh, shuffle feet, hem, haw to the max . . .

The Magicsterical has managed a massive industry over such art and objects for many hundreds of years. They are not about to throw water on such "wonderful things" regardless of how 'tacitly' 'improper' they are.

WHAT UNMITIGATED DUPLICITY. And all in the name of blasphemous junk. I'm sure God is quite impressed. He must have been sleeping when He got that wool pulled over His eyes.

[AnAmericanMother]

Found it - different finger in the book, but that's probably just to throw everybody off the track.

In the shops in Geneva, you can buy little Calvin devotional statues to worship.

I think I like this one better anyhow:

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY

SHOCKING.