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Malaysia hearings start in Catholic 'Allah' fight
SF Gate ^ | December 14, 2009

Posted on 12/14/2009 6:10:49 AM PST by Gamecock

Edited on 12/14/2009 8:41:30 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Lawyers for the Roman Catholic Church urged a court Monday to let Christians use "Allah" as a translation for God and overturn a government ban that has become a symbol of religious grievances in Muslim-majority Malaysia.

The High Court began hearing legal arguments in the dispute, which began in late 2007 after the government blocked non-Muslims from translating God as "Allah" in their literature, saying it would confuse Muslims.


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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam
KEYWORDS: allah; catholicmorons; god
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To: HarleyD
But then you're libel to get your head chopped off.

Liable, even.

41 posted on 12/14/2009 5:01:42 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: HarleyD
Honestly, it's as if you Catholics cut-and-paste this comment

Not cut-and-paste, but actual visceral objection to anti-Catholic bigotry and lies on their every (countless) occasion.

...into every post that sheds light upon misdeeds in the Church.

Misdeeds in the Church?

This thread does not state a misdeed of the Church.

42 posted on 12/14/2009 5:04:48 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: HarleyD; Alex Murphy

You wrote:

“Oh blah, blah, blah. Honestly, it’s as if you Catholics cut-and-paste this comment into every post that sheds light upon misdeeds in the Church.”

Okay, Harley, let’s try it this way. Which of the following is the truth and which is a distortion:

1) Harley said, “One would hope that you would be incense with the problems rather than shooting the messengers.”

2) Harley said, “One would hope that you would be incensed enough with my problems enough to shoot me.”

Now, which comment did you actually say? Which comment is a distortion of what you said? Two and a half years ago someone (you can guess who) posted something that was CLEARLY a distortion. He is still posting it. What kind of a person deliberately posts something that is shown to be untrue and refuses to even admit it is a distortion when the objective evidence of that distotion is posted? What kind of a person?

Apparently an anti-Catholic Protestant, that’s what kind.


43 posted on 12/14/2009 7:59:23 PM PST by vladimir998 (Reformed Christians post distortions at FreeRepublic? Say it ain't so. But it is.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for helping out Alex. I really appreciate it.


44 posted on 12/14/2009 8:00:11 PM PST by vladimir998 (Reformed Christians post distortions at FreeRepublic? Say it ain't so. But it is.)
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To: vladimir998
This not only proves that anti-Catholics routinely recycle and recycle and recycle anti-Catholic material, but that they also routinely distort the truth to serve their own purposes.

Please note, in post #12 of that 2007 (!) thread Pyro posted this: “Yeah, but the article seems to imply that the Catholic news organization was saying that, not Iranian TV.”

And yet, here we are again with the same distortion posted by Alex Murphy as if Pyro had never pointed out that valid criticism in 2007!!!

Nice work.

45 posted on 12/14/2009 8:23:51 PM PST by Lorica
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To: Lorica

Thank you!


46 posted on 12/14/2009 8:25:25 PM PST by vladimir998 (Reformed Christians post distortions at FreeRepublic? Say it ain't so. But it is.)
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To: vladimir998; HarleyD; Gamecock
I think we’re about to find out whether or not Reformed Christianity has actually had any affect on its biggest FR proponent.

Wow - I'm honored. Nice to hear that I'm still at the top of my game!

Oh, and since I see we're keeping score on grammatical errors made in this thread, double points to anyone who can spot the one in Vlad's post.

47 posted on 12/14/2009 8:58:51 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Petronski

I noticed that after I pressed the button. Oops.


48 posted on 12/14/2009 9:27:50 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Petronski

Then you agree with the Catholic Church wanting to change the name of God to “Allah”. Pity.


49 posted on 12/14/2009 9:29:19 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: vladimir998; Alex Murphy
I suppose Protestants should just start posting,

Do you think the above sentence gives any added value?

50 posted on 12/14/2009 9:37:16 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock

Hey, don’t let it go to your head. :O)


51 posted on 12/14/2009 9:39:04 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Changing to Allah? Arab Christians were calling God by the term “Allah” before there was such a thing as a Muslim.


52 posted on 12/14/2009 10:12:16 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: HarleyD; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
Oh blah, blah, blah. Honestly, it's as if you Catholics cut-and-paste this comment into every post that sheds light upon misdeeds in the Church.

True.

A lot of bandwidth on FR could be saved, jobs created and the environment saved if Roman Catholics and Roman Catholic wannabes would use the following posting scheme:

Instead of posting "It’s really interesting to see how anti-Catholics here at FR and at other sites invent, distort and spread anti-Catholic nonsense." just say "Standard response 1"

Instead of posting "Servetus was murdered by Calvin" post "Strawman number five."

Instead of saying "You Calvinists just hate Catholics" just post "Ad Hom Number 14."

53 posted on 12/14/2009 11:06:50 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: HarleyD
Then you agree with the Catholic Church wanting to change the name of God to “Allah”.

For those speaking Arabic, it's not a change. Do you think people the world 'round interrupt their native language to insert the English-word "God" when they refer to Him?

If you speak Arabic and you are Christian, the Lord God Almighty has been "Allah" since the time of the Resurrection.

54 posted on 12/15/2009 5:13:49 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Alex Murphy

You wrote:

“Wow - I’m honored. Nice to hear that I’m still at the top of my game!”

If you’re game is posting distortions already pointed out to you more than 2 years ago, then yep, you’re still at the top of your game. Jesus would be so proud, right? Well, maybe Calvin.

“Oh, and since I see we’re keeping score on grammatical errors made in this thread, double points to anyone who can spot the one in Vlad’s post.”

At least they won’t find a distortion that was already pointed out more than two years ago.


55 posted on 12/15/2009 6:07:18 AM PST by vladimir998 (Reformed Christians post distortions at FreeRepublic? Say it ain't so. But it is.)
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To: HarleyD

You wrote:

“I suppose Protestants should just start posting,”It’s really interesting to see how anti-Protestants here at FR and at other sites invent, distort and spread anti-Protestant nonsense.”

Go ahead and post it. Would it be true, however? Seems to me it can’t be made as valid claim.

“Do you think the above sentence gives any added value?”

No. Because it is untrue. Just like the distortion that was reposted in this thread.


56 posted on 12/15/2009 6:34:40 AM PST by vladimir998 (Reformed Christians post distortions at FreeRepublic? Say it ain't so. But it is.)
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To: Gamecock

Well, given the volume of anti-Catholic material posted on Free Republic, certainly some sort of automation would be in order.

However, for the sake of new lurkers who might not know the character and caliber of anti-Catholic bigotry at work here, I suppose we’ll just keep typing it out longhand.


57 posted on 12/15/2009 6:38:08 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Gamecock; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; the_conscience; Mr Rogers; wmfights
Catholic posters are so cute! Their little eyes well up with tears, their lips quiver in anger, their little fists ball up in rage, as they yell "you take that back!!" Pretending they alone are the final arbiters of truth, I can just imagine them in their little pope costumes when they do it!


58 posted on 12/15/2009 6:40:46 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thank you for that post, that they might know you by your fruits.


59 posted on 12/15/2009 6:43:51 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Alex Murphy

I see you’ve run into he who believes the OED is the word of God. A weird spin-off of KJV onlyism. OED onlyism.


60 posted on 12/15/2009 6:48:24 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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