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Baptist, Brethren, Lutheran, Methodist Churches Ask Senate for Abortion Funds
Life News ^ | 10/2/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 10/02/2009 4:46:22 PM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A coalition of mainline Protestant churches have authored a letter to members of Congress asking them to make certain the health care bills they are considering contain taxpayer funding for abortions. The letter comes from a group of churches that have long advocated the pro-abortion position.

Under the umbrella of the Religious Institute, the church denominations and more than 1,100 pastors and church staff from the denominations endorsed the letter.

The letter calls abortion a “morally justifiable decision” and opposed any amendments to the House and Senate bills, which current contain massive abortion funding, to strike that taxpayer-financing.

“Already, federal policy unfairly prevents low-income women and federal employees from receiving subsidized [abortions]," Rev. Debra W. Haffner, executive director of the Religious Institute complained.

The letter added that she doesn't want more abortion funding bans in place and complained that additional "restrictions" on abortion funding constitute a "serious moral injustice.”

The denominations endorsing the letter include the American Baptist Churches, Church of the Brethren, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, and others.

"We affirm women as moral agents who have the capacity, right and responsibility to make the decision as to whether or not abortion is justified in their specific circumstances," the letter says.

The Jewish Reconstructionist Federation, Unitarian Universalist Association, and United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism also endorsed the pro-abortion letter.

The Religious Institute claims to represent 4,800 clergy and 40 Christian denominations.

Some of the signers to the letter include: Fr. Dr. Luis Barrios, Chair of Latin American and Latina/o Studies, John Jay College of Criminal Justice - CUNY; Rabbi Dan Ehrenkrantz, President, Reconstructionist Rabbinical College; Rev. Dr. Yvette Flunder, Bishop, The Fellowship; The Rev. Dr. Paula Gravelle, Chair, Clergy Action Board; and Rev. Dr. Larry Greenfield, Executive Minister, American Baptist Churches of Metro Chicago.

They also include Rabbi Peter Knobel, Former President, Central Conference of American Rabbis; Rev. Dr. Pamela Lightsey, Dean, Garrett Evangelical Theological Seminary; Rev. Michael Livingston, Executive Director, International Council of Community Churches; Rev. Dr. Deborah Mullen, Director, Center for African American Ministry and Black Church Studies, McCormick Theological Seminary; Dr. Sylvia Rhue, Interim Executive Director, National Black Justice Coalition; and Rev. Dr. William Stayton, Professor of Sexuality and Religion, Morehouse School of Medicine


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

61 posted on 10/03/2009 5:23:37 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Ransomed

***Hey Mark, I know stories like this can be disheartening. This is real 10,000 BC witchcult stuff. But these folks aren’t the real Protestants, who are Christians. ***

One of the things that I admire about our Orthodox Catholics is that they are much more likely to rise up and cast out bishops who are heterodox. We do that reluctantly in the Latin Church. It is not done at all in the Protestant churches except on the local level which is really a popularity contest and not a theological one.

***They are wackaddoo losers who are trying to bring back paganistic ritual sacrifice from the dawn of prehistory and soil the names of good Christian organizations.***

Perhaps. I think that the drive is simply the most simple explanation of human preference, laziness, and most importantly, power.


62 posted on 10/03/2009 5:26:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee

By their fruits shall ye know them.


63 posted on 10/03/2009 10:38:13 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin -- I love her because she freaks out all the right people.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Hey man you are ‘probly a heckuva lot smarter than me when it comes to this stuff. All I’m saying is that these troggs are doing stuff that lots of Protestants are no way into, despite what the media would like for us to think.

“Perhaps. I think that the drive is simply the most simple explanation of human preference, laziness, and most importantly, power.”

Ask yourself how the devil would work. This is real old stuff come again, in my opinion.

Freegards


64 posted on 10/03/2009 10:49:09 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: wagglebee

Shame on each and every one of them.


65 posted on 10/04/2009 3:44:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: wagglebee; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
The letter calls abortion a “morally justifiable decision” and opposed any amendments to the House and Senate bills, which current contain massive abortion funding, to strike that taxpayer-financing.

Where's that in the Bible?!!

Catholic Ping
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66 posted on 10/04/2009 4:44:16 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: GeronL
These people are NOT Christians.

X2

67 posted on 10/04/2009 5:02:05 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Upbeat
Here is the list of "churches" that belong to the NCC. If ANY Freeper sees this list and remains in their church, they are also guilty of putting their stamp of approval on these people's request for abortion funds. GET OUT!!!

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

68 posted on 10/04/2009 5:07:48 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: wagglebee

From what I know about the organizations mentioned in the article, the god they serve does. Hint: They are part of the many that, on Judgement Day Jesus will say, “Depart from me I never knew you....”

The god they serve is Satan.


69 posted on 10/04/2009 5:17:08 AM PDT by sport
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To: NYer
"Where's that in the Bible?!!

And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. - Matther 18:5

70 posted on 10/04/2009 8:06:53 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NYer

“Where’s that in the Bible?!!”

What does that have to do with it? /sarc


71 posted on 10/04/2009 10:05:38 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Ransomed

***Hey man you are ‘probly a heckuva lot smarter than me when it comes to this stuff. All I’m saying is that these troggs are doing stuff that lots of Protestants are no way into, despite what the media would like for us to think.***

The individuals may or may not be, but their theological leadership is in a rather public fashion.

***Ask yourself how the devil would work. This is real old stuff come again, in my opinion.***

Absolutely, satan is described as the great deceiver. If he has gotten these mainline Protestant churches to the point where they are openly asking for abortion funding, they are further towards serving satan than previously believed.


72 posted on 10/04/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Does that leave Mennonites as the only “peace church” that doesn’t officially insist on the right to kill little babies?

It's pitiful. My many generations of Methodist forebearers are spinning in their graves.

73 posted on 10/04/2009 3:06:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("I apologize to hookers for having associated them with the House of Representatives.--Jim Traficant)
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To: Albion Wilde; flaglady47; oswegodeee; lightman
Martin Luther is spinning in his grave also, my dear Methodist-descended freeper friend.

In my usual disclaimer, the Missouri Synod adheres to its REAL Christ-centered Lutheran foundation and roots, while the apostate Evangelical *Lutheran* Church in America ( ELCA ) does NOT.

We stand firm with Dr. Luther and the teachings of the Holy Scripture....not the diluted, twisted and spun teachings as promulgated by liberal moles in the denomination.

"On Christ the solid rock we stand, all OTHER GROUND is shifting sand."

Leni

( *....retaining the name "Lutheran" illegitimately)

74 posted on 10/04/2009 3:35:58 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
"On Christ the solid rock we stand, all OTHER GROUND is shifting sand."

Amen! resoundingly....

75 posted on 10/04/2009 3:42:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("I apologize to hookers for having associated them with the House of Representatives.--Jim Traficant)
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To: wagglebee

nothing surprises me anymore. Except orthodoxy.


76 posted on 10/04/2009 3:58:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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To: MinuteGal
www.lutheransforlife.org
77 posted on 10/04/2009 4:16:09 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

78 posted on 10/04/2009 4:17:39 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: wagglebee

This is the precise reason I left the UMC seven years ago.


79 posted on 10/04/2009 4:20:08 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: MinuteGal; wagglebee
Does anyone else notice the perverse irony that most of the signatories to and supporters of this letter adhere to the Revised Common Lectionary, which had this pericope as the Holy Gospel today:

GOSPEL
• Mark 10:2-16

Some Pharisees came, and to test him they asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” He answered them, “What did Moses command you?” They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her.” But Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote this commandment for you. but from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Then in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”

People were bringing little children to him in order that he might touch them; and the disciples spoke sternly to them. but when Jesus saw this, he was indignant and said to them, “Let the little children come to me; do not stop them; for it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. Truly I tell you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will never enter it.” And he took them up in his arms, laid his hands on them, and blessed them.

Acceptance of divorce leads to acceptance of contraception leads to acceptance of abortion, all leading to acceptance of homosexual partnering.

80 posted on 10/04/2009 4:38:12 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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