Posted on 09/24/2009 8:37:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
We are losing our children! Research indicates that 70% of teens who are involved in a church youth group will stop attending church … [1]
Similar statements from Christian leaders aren’t new, but many still can’t seem to identify the root cause of the problem. However, most front-line evangelists in the Western world have reached a consensus. The following quote is from a person who shares his faith more times in a month than most Christians ever will in their lives...
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“How so? Is it the role of the public schools to teach children how to live their lives WITH God?”
Learning cannot occur in a vacuum. Because of the erroneous adherence to “separation of Church and State”, all mention of God is prohibited in the classroom. So all studies of morality, natural science, history, purpose of man and other knowledge must come from the viewpoint of secular humanism.
(which is in and of itself a religion!)
I have no objection to God being mentioned in public school. I do object to the bible being taught as science, or to science being twisted to conform to scripture.
34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:34-35
Jesus was apparently prepared to start here...and so am I.
As many as 50,000 Muslims are expected to congregate at the Capitol with the blessings of the usuper.
Oue ‘president’ is an apostate- he is NO Christian despite his lies.
Have you been following the UN?
Hugo Chavez exclaimed today at the UN, amidst all his biazarre ramblings, that he fears for the safety of the annointed one.
I think alot of people are getting that sense the way this idiot is moving waaaaaay too fast and has taken off his mask.
BTW...almost all the world’s terrorist heads of state were at the UN, from Ka-DAFFY to Chavez...too bad we can’t arrest them and put them all on a plane to Gitmo!
But it’s been a real star wars bar scene...btw, Rush AND Brian Williams referred to it as that no less!
Some mighty disjointed ramblings from them...and all of them seemed to be pro-zerrhoid except the Iranian nutjob
Ah-me-jihad...
Ka-DAFFY wants zero to be president for life...while Hugo Chavez fears for his (zero’s) safety...and somewhere during that observation commented about it “not smelling like sulfur in here anymore” and then laughing and giggling almost uncontrollably...makes ya wonder if he was up there passing gas!
This is just surreal! Afghanistan and flooding in Georgia took a back seat to the zerrhoid playing a basketball game and the UN...
not to mention the missle shield and the health care fiasco...cap and tax...
Zerrhoid pretty much said Europe leads the world and America is arrogant.
Is this really heppening?
What happened to our country?
When did soooooo many people lose control of their faculties?
BiBi was a rational reasoned breath of fresh air though!
I wish he was our president!
God gave us a mind for a reason.
But not to the point of leaning on it exclusively.
And you’re missing the memo...evolution as taught in school today dismisses God’s creation. Your ideas are purposefully marginalized.
Did you ever get around to demonstrating you indeed know the definition of Christianity?
I am a Christian. Why do you deny that?
Why do you invite your frinds to your denial?
Exactly, that is how you reach unbelievers... but for those already in the Church, as this article is referring to, we need to teach the TRUTH, and the truth is not evolution.
Very well said! Very well said indeed!
BW: Wrong. Christianity and evolution are perfectly compatible. Faith and science are perfectly compatible.
Only if God lied when He told us....
Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
Gen 2:19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.
You didn’t answer tpanther’s question, which was....”Did you ever get around to demonstrating you indeed know the definition of Christianity?”
Where in that question did tpanther deny that you were a Christian and where did he invite anyone to his *denial*?
All he asked you was if you ever got around to demonstrating that you knew what defined a Christian. Why change the subject?
Are you so unsure of what it means to be a Christian that you need me to explain it to you? Surely you believe that Catholics and Episcopalians are Christian, don’t you?
Allegory is not lie. Christianity is perfectly compatible with evolution.
You do understand the concept of allegory, don’t you?
Teach basic epistemology, avoid category errors, and do make kids choose between religion and science. It’s a false choice and eventually you will lose - needlessly.
“...do make kids choose between religion and science”?
Freudian slip? :o
“The problem is with evolution being used to infer religion”.
Hardly, the problem is the NEA secular humanists that demand young children understand that there’s “no place for God in the science class”, indeed in ANY class; nevermind the vast majority of children that attend school know better, freely accept Him in every other single facet of their lives, discuss Him openly in conversations, etc. etc. etc.
If anyone is forcing children to make a false choice, it’s secular humansit NEA/ACLU liberal lunatics like Micahel Newdow dependent on courts and liberal activist judges to enforce their liberal view of “science” and ideology.
Evolution as it is currently taught in public school is anti-theistic and intolerant of dissent. Just an extension of abiogenesis...without intelligence, without design, above all without God...all by sheer chance, and children are taught they’re little more than great apes.
THAT’S the problem.
Are you certain someone wouldn’t just mistake you for a Rotarian? Really, you think Christianity is just “being nice to each other”? Indeed, wouldn’t most members of the “Hope and Change” movement say they behave in the way you recommend?
Good point, of course there is much much more to it; but giving credit where credit is due, at least Jesus was even mentioned!
“(2) the heretical teachings of liberal Christian denominations.”
That is EXACTLY what the author of this book, the author of the book I am reading (Ken Ham), and this article is about.
When we have Christians teaching that evolution is compatible with Genesis, we will have youths leaving the Church.
BULLSEYE! Nails the FR closet liberals...no easy task as that’s like nailing jello to a wall!
Thanks...I am surprised though, not that there are atheists on FR who only have the option of evolution, but Christians who have fallen for the ‘god of the gaps’ theory which is usually associated withthe liberal / left. That is not to accuse our brother of being liberal/left but only to recognise the influences in that mindset.
I notice more and more FReepers rightly pointing out the obvious angle of liberalism. It’s common sense...what other scientific theory leans on the courts? What other theory so obviously can not tolerate dissent?
Above all what would lead anyone to believe liberals don’t hijack science like they hijack any and everything else they touch?
And trust me, many recognize it all right. They know that connection or “mindset” exactly, it’s just that liberals have no shame! SOME may be unwitting but too many are openly liberal and could care less!
You didn’t answer tpanther’s question, which was....”Did you ever get around to demonstrating you indeed know the definition of Christianity?”
Where in that question did tpanther deny that you were a Christian and where did he invite anyone to his *denial*?
All he asked you was if you ever got around to demonstrating that you knew what defined a Christian. Why change the subject?
Helpless is as helpless does.
Rarely do you meet anyone so brazen on any forum willing to make a complete idiot of themselves with ideas like dismissing the Bible is what ultimately determines if one is Christian.
“...like dismissing the Bible is what ultimately determines if one is Christian.”
What? Cultism is a terrible thing, isn’t it? You know, if this weren’t in the religion forum, I would remind you that you are a shameless liar.
But it’s in religion, so I won’t.
How do you determine what is or isn’t allegory?
God didn’t remotely assert we are merely great apes.
You show a reemarkable penchant for understanding neither evolution OR Christianity when you keep parroting “Christianity is perfectly compatible with evolution”.
Actually, I have a remarkably keen insight into both, hence my obvious conclusion. Most Christians have the intellectual acuity to share my conclusion.
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