How can I be removed from a thread that I didn’t sign on for in the first place? I’d like to be removed from the Catholic thread and the general religion thread, if possible.
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Mary, Mother of God
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Mary: True Mother of God
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MARIAN DEVOTION - Akathist Hymn to the Mother of God
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The Mother of the Son: The Case for Marian Devotion
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Baptist ping
This entire thread could have been summed up in a few little
verses:
John 14 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me (and my mother)
AND
John 10:30
I and the Father and our mother are one.”
AND
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
“In 2005, he was appointed as the Pope Benedict XVI Chair of Biblical Theology and Liturgical Proclamation at St. Vincent Seminary in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.”
I wonder what that job really entails. He’s in Steubenville, Ohio. Latrobe close, but not just a 20 minute drive away! I know he gives talks there: http://www.saintvincentseminary.edu/video/scotthahn2008.lasso
Well, that was interesting. Unconvincing, but interesting. I prefer the plain words of Scripture to complex interpretations, any day.
Feel the same way about the Constitution
So she is being confronted and brutally intimidated by a dragon who is intent upon producing disobedience, come hell or high water. So in the cross-examination, in the interrogation that goes back and forth, Satan uses the truth in a clever, deceptive, but intimidating way to kind of force this woman to see, in effect, that if she doesn't eat that fruit, she will die, at least in the biological, physical sense because Satan will see to it.
The question, then, as you read through this narrative is not based upon anything that is explicitly stated, but rather that which is so conspicuously unstated, and that is, where the heck is Adam in all this? By the end of the narrative you discover that he's right by the woman because she just turns and gives him the fruit to eat; but the question is, where was he all along? This loving covenant head, this loving covenant partner who is to show the great love that he's willing to lay down his life for his beloved? Well, he was probably rationalizing his silence by saying, “Well, if I oppose such a serpentile monster as this, I stand no chance.” “
The author uses an example of a prophet's envisioned allegory, to show how one could change the meaning of what a direct relation of Eve's action. This point can be allowed because one hopes it matters that one accept his alteration. In fact the only thing alteration allows is for further alteration of additional verses.
As for brutal intimidation, nothing is implied. Unless one read, "You will not surely die," as to mean, "If you eat it, I won't kill you."
But, the fact is, until sin affected the bodies of Adam and Eve, they did not know corruption, nor did they know death. They were in effect, immortal and would not die, nor suffer injury. These only entered after sin and the cursing of creation for that sin. A threat of death would mean nothing, and besides, Adam had dominion over all the animals.
Further, it is not apparent that Adam was immediately beside Eve when she was decieved.By the immediacy of the wording, it appears to be implied. However, reading that into the story is similar to people reading the narrative of the Book of Acts and believing it happened in a matter of weeks rather than years.
Adam's choice was not because he feared the serpent, but because he saw a seperation between God and Eve. He chose fellowship of Eve over God. This is a common decision, wrongly made by nearly the entire human population since that moment.
Because of the extent of misapplication, anything said either pro or against my current understanding, I deemed not worth my pursuit. If it agreed with my understanding, it is still a weak argument given the weak initial basis. If it disagreed with my theology, it still does not matter due to the same weak ness.
“...to see where in scripture do we see, not necessarily logical demonstrations that are brought forth from proof texts...”
OK THEN!
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: If they make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.