Bishop Ad van Luyn
(photo: Diocese of Rotterdam)
Pope Benedict XVI
Professor Jean-Pierre Wils (2009)
Photo: Radboud University
Posted on 02/02/2009 10:50:10 AM PST by annalex
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A professor of theology and ethics at the Roman Catholic Radboud University in Nijmegen is leaving the church over the issue. Professor Jean-Pierre Wils told Radio Netherlands Worldwide
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Do you remember the dreadful Papal visit in 1985? The Dutch (inside and outside the Church) treated the Pope terribly.
No kidding! From the picture, Bishop van Luyn doesn't look old enough to have participated in the infamous Dutch Catechism of the 60s (though I've seen house organ pictures of people I worked with that should have been labeled "1956 photo"!), but the spirit of rebellion apparently lives! I can't help wondering if he's been planning to leave since Benedict XVI was elected, and this has stirred enough comment to make it a good PR precipating event!
Yes -- I read that that was why the French bishops opposed Summorum Pontificum. (No, I don't understand the logic either!)
It’s professor Wils who is leaving, not the bishop. Not yet.
Oops! I’ll have to read more carefully in the future! :(
Lovely poem.
Well, then, just skip on to the next topic. These posts are getting a lot of replies, so while it may not be of interest to you, it’s clearly of interest to other people here. That’s what FR is all about.
Who said anybody thought this topic was particularly "hot" with Christians? I posted it because of the outrage from the MSM that keeps covering it. As far as Catholics are concerned, this is a non-story, because the Pope did exactly the right thing. Most of the outrage seems to come from non-Catholics who seem to view excommunication as some sort of punishment the the Pope might dole out as he sees fit. Personally, I'm glad that this thread gave me the opportunity to educate a least a Couple of them.
None of this sould seem like rocket science to someone who has auch an artificially high regard for his own intellect that he writes his posts in verse form.
Well speaking as a non Catholic ( but more and more contemplating joining ) this really doesn’t look bad to me.
Yes the press is making a big ballyhoo of it. Just like they did when they were shocked to find out Benedict was going to promote Catholic beliefs.
They are just upset because they cannot control the Pontiff by their silly and shrill hollering.
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None of the "Econe Four" will ever become a bishop in any practical sense.First, in the most practical sense, they already are. I was confirmed by one of them. Second, I think that very soon a Personal Prelature will exist and they will each (well maybe three of four) will have Titular Sees and worldwide jurisdiction as does Opus Dei. YMMV.
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I think the personal prelature solution will probably be the one the Pope adopts. However, I think he wants the good ideas behind the SSPX to have more influence and not to be off in a sort of special space.
When this whole thing came up a couple of weeks ago, I didn’t imagine he was going to integrate the SSPX into the larger Church and I’d never even really considered that possibility. I didn’t think he’d appoint any SSPX bishop to be the ordinary in a regular, say, French diocese.
But the more I think about it, the more I wonder, why not? The French church is almost dead, aside from the SSPX - so why not appoint one of these bishops to a French diocese?
What totally amazes me is the fact that the very same people who are beating up on Benedict for this, have NO PROBLEM whatsoever with Obama attempting to “rehabilitate” The President of Iran - also an admitted Holocaust denier. The Pope and Bp. Williamson are powerless figureheads, and very few people listen to them anyway. But Obama and that nutcase over in Iran can do some real damage. Neither Benedict or Williamson have their finger on any nuclear red buttons. Again, the total hypocrisy of the secular media.
I believe the number of Dutch seminarians has recently doubled from 2 to 4. We wouldn't want such a beautiful springtime to be darkened by traditionalist destruction, would we? < /sarc>
It may well not be a formal doctrinal issue, however, the Church should not allow bigoted ahistorical idiots to be Bishops.
The man should be removed from his office of Bishop, not excommunicated—if under canon law that is possible.
The first German pope in many centuries....who reinstates a Holocaust denier? Someone at the Vatican failed to do their homework BIG TIME on this one...
The Pope is not a figurehead. He has real authority over 1 billion Catholics. Unlike some democratic leaders elected by TV talking heads and Chicago crooks that come to mind.
It is not written anywhere that bishops may NOT speak their mind as private citizens; however, a bishop is primarily a teacher of his flock, so I agree that he has a duty to separate his historical convictions from his pastoral work.
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