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What's wrong with Catholic voters? What's wrong with Catholics?
CatholicCulture.org ^ | November 5, 2008 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 11/10/2008 12:21:00 PM PST by Ebenezer

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1 posted on 11/10/2008 12:21:01 PM PST by Ebenezer
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To: lsucat; Teófilo; NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; mileschristi; bornacatholic; Mrs. Don-o; narses; ..

Faith of Our Fathers ping


2 posted on 11/10/2008 12:21:53 PM PST by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96
Sheeple...just like many of my fellow Black Evangelicals. :-(
3 posted on 11/10/2008 12:23:27 PM PST by T Lady (Palin-Jindal 2012)
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To: rrstar96

A slippery slope following birth control to Planned Parenthood?


4 posted on 11/10/2008 12:23:53 PM PST by sarasota
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To: rrstar96

Already posted: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2126950/posts


5 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:04 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: rrstar96

This makes me sick as I was christened in the Catholic Church. 54% of Catholics and 78% of Jews let America and themselves down. It is disgraceful.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:23 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: rrstar96

Already posted when it was published, 5 days ago.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:41 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: rrstar96
Half the people I work with are Catholic, as am I.

I'm the only one who is pro-life.

I'm the only one who doesn't want 'free' health care at the expense of my free-dom.

I think most "Catholics" nowadays consider their church to be a social club.

The very word "morality" makes them snort with contempt.

8 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: Alex Murphy; wideawake

Sorry for the duplication.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 12:26:41 PM PST by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

That’s easy. Catholics don’t live their faith. Evangelicals do. You will know them by their fruits.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 12:31:27 PM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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It clearly sounds like the Vatican must do more to educate American Catholics about their faith. The monastic orders are the obvious choice to send through America on a mission of education, helping the laity steer away from heterodoxy.

Just for them to be available, to speak with and visit the young, adult and old, would be a grand experience for all concerned.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:21 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Oh, what about the significant percentage of Evangelicals who DID vote for Obama? Were they “living their faith”?


12 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:29 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: rrstar96

The dumbing down of many voters in general greatly benefited the political left at each and every level. Conservatives don’t even have anything that even comes close to equalling all of the advantages that the political left presently has, and this is why I’m not seriously convinced that this rapid shift to the profound left is only temporary and will end in either ‘10, ‘12, ‘14, ‘16... I give the conservative movement sixty years before it does make any kind of serious political comeback, if it even makes any kind of political comeback to begin with. I really do want to be wrong about all of this, but I don’t believe that I’m wrong. Look at how many countries throughout the entire world still maintain a socialistic form of government, even if they really don’t like it.


13 posted on 11/10/2008 12:34:37 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (There's nothing good to say about leftists in complete control of everything important.)
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Yes! In the old days, Catholics had many things that kept them apart and reminded them of their priorities: the Faith and your moral/spiritual life first, and then the world and civil society. This actually makes people good citizens. But after 40 years of bad or non-existent teaching, people have gotten it backwards, and the world and its ways take priority. Oddly enough, this makes neither for good Christians - nor for good citizens.
14 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:59 PM PST by livius
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George Barna's recent polling found these results:

Protestant voters were evenly split between being registered as Democrats and Republicans. However, they sided with Sen. McCain by a 53% to 46% split. That 7-point gap was just half the margin accorded to George W. Bush in 2004 (57% to 42%), but within range of the 4-point preference given to Mr. Bush in 2000 (51% to 47%).

Nearly half of all registered Catholics were aligned with the Democratic Party (48%), compared to only about one-quarter associated with the Republicans (28%) and one-fifth who remained independent (20%). Their voting behavior was significantly different than that of Protestants: they backed Sen. Obama by a 56% to 43% outcome. That was far different than the even split in 2004 (49% for Pres. Bush vs. 49% for Sen. Kerry) and substantially more support for the Democratic candidate than they had given to Al Gore in 2000 (49%, versus 43% to Mr. Bush).

15 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:26 PM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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That’s easy. Catholics don’t live their faith. Evangelicals do. You will know them by their fruits.

What a ridiculous statement.

Textbook example of a Type I Error.

When a Catholic falls away from the Church and doesn't live his faith any more, he generally still refers to himself as a Catholic anyway.

When an Evangelical falls away from the Christian life, he generally doesn't refer to himself as an Evangelical anymore.

That's the only difference.

The number of people who claim to have been born again at some point in their lives and the number of people who actually live a Evangelical life is as great a discrepancy as the number of people who are nominally Catholic and those who actually live a Catholic life.

16 posted on 11/10/2008 12:45:12 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Had two catholic church going friends bite my head off when I said I could never vote democrat while they were for abortion on demand, even for young girls without parental notification.

Color me stunned.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 12:46:50 PM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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That’s easy. Catholics don’t live their faith. Evangelicals do.

You'll find the problem with the brush you've selected to be that there aren't any paint buckets big enough to dip it in.

Boy, are Evagelicals dopes! Oops! I just did it, too!
18 posted on 11/10/2008 12:48:57 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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There is nothing wrong with Catholics. Those that vote democrat aren’t catholic. You can’t be pro-abortion and be Catholic.


19 posted on 11/10/2008 12:51:34 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step. see ya on the gas lines..)
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What's wrong with Catholic voters? What's wrong with Catholics?

They and the church are strong believers in socialism. How many times has the phrase "social justice" been used in catholic newspapers (Social justice meaning taking from those who earned it and giving it so someoen who didn't so that the robber can feel good) Catholic Charaties USA gets over $1,000,000,000 of taxpayer loot annually in grants. Don't think that the church is going to say "no don't trob the taxpayers - we don't want the money."

The Catholic bureaucracy has been bought by the statists in government and paid for with our tax dollars. Look for some more endorsement of the obomanation's gun control agenda like the American council of Catholic Bishops did in 1994 for Clinton's gun bans.

20 posted on 11/10/2008 12:51:51 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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