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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)
Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Quix
>>give the poor baby a sugar t_ti.e. a teaspoon of sugar in a corner of a hankey secured with a string or rubber band.<<
Oh that must have been fun for the baby, but not so good for those budding teeth!
2,741
posted on
06/05/2008 1:59:28 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: 1000 silverlings
Well its Catholic theology and we are dealing here with a Catholic defense of it, When I said it was up to someone to quell reasonable doubts of innocence and that this was a Protestant principle, I was ridiculed.
Now when somebody makes some wild and crazy charges against us it is our theology and up to us to provide a defense? And all the less do I think so when I have been shown that "drive them nuts" is a strategy of some Protestant posters (and when drawing the logical conclusion from this and stating it is called "foul and disingenuous").
Let somebody show a serious interest in what we teach and display serious desire to understand and evaluate, and we can discuss all these things in candor.
Otherwise, well, what you see is what you get.
2,742
posted on
06/05/2008 1:59:39 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Quix
Glucosamine and condroitin have my 80-year-old father scooting around like a 60-year-old, or a billygoat.
2,743
posted on
06/05/2008 1:59:45 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: dan1123
So:
(A)How do you reconcile that with the same passage telling us to make prayers and thanks givings and supplications and all that for others.
(B)How, exactly, does that show we are not to pray to others? There's clearly a chain of reasoning, but I don't see it.
2,744
posted on
06/05/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: 1000 silverlings
It is a proposed Catholic doctrine. It is not a teaching of the Catholic Church.
2,745
posted on
06/05/2008 2:00:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: DungeonMaster
2,746
posted on
06/05/2008 2:01:54 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg
Other posters have been defending it up until now. We have been told, repeatedly, that it is Latin and that it means “with the Redeemer”. Now that it has been pointed out to them that it’s not Latin, that it is illogical and made up, they have decided, apparently, to disown it. So it doesn’t exist. Got it
2,747
posted on
06/05/2008 2:02:57 PM PDT
by
1000 silverlings
(Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
To: 1000 silverlings
Well its Catholic theology . . . It is not. It might be the theology of "a" Catholic or "some" Catholics, but it is not a teaching of the Catholic Church.
2,748
posted on
06/05/2008 2:03:24 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: netmilsmom
2,749
posted on
06/05/2008 2:03:51 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: 1000 silverlings
We have been told, repeatedly, that it is Latin and that it means with the Redeemer. Now that it has been pointed out to them that its not Latin, that it is illogical and made up, they have decided, apparently, to disown it.Fanciful.
2,750
posted on
06/05/2008 2:04:31 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Petronski
>>There are plenty of Vatican documents that do not and cannot establish doctrine.<<
True, but this one’s a pretty safe bet.
I’ve done a Vatican.va search for co-redemptrix. It came up with four hits.
Every one is about people deemed to be “cults” that the Vatican shut down.
2,751
posted on
06/05/2008 2:04:34 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: Petronski
Virtually every complaint and every answer filed in every courthouse in every county of every state in the U.S. contains a “Prayer For Relief”...
Do these people seriously believe that all those litigants are blasphemers?
Stunning.
To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg
Now that Catholics have no idea where it’s from, the burden has shifted onto us to tell you, too funny
2,753
posted on
06/05/2008 2:05:17 PM PDT
by
1000 silverlings
(Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
To: 1000 silverlings
>>Again, a Catholic needs to explain to us whence it cometh, because it is illogical.<<
Well it wasn’t the Vatican so perhaps you can ask that Catholic?
2,754
posted on
06/05/2008 2:06:08 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: reagandemocrat
I was once told that capitalizing a proper noun means bowing to that thing. Amazing!
2,755
posted on
06/05/2008 2:06:15 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: 1000 silverlings
That is false. And I also see no connection between it and the post to which it is allegedly a response.
Rope-a-dope?
2,756
posted on
06/05/2008 2:06:50 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Quix
Got to make dinner on this HOT day.
Be back!
2,757
posted on
06/05/2008 2:07:00 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: Petronski
That helped me, too.
But not near as much as the liquid kind. I don’t know what’s added to those ingredients . . . let me check . .
DRINKABLES ULTIMATE JOINT CARE
also in addition to those to ingrediants—colligen and MSM
2,758
posted on
06/05/2008 2:07:11 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: 1000 silverlings
Now that Catholics have no idea where its from, the burden has shifted onto us to tell you, too funnyThe ones who claim it is a Catholic teaching should prove that it is.
2,759
posted on
06/05/2008 2:07:41 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Mad Dawg
A) There is a difference between the words “to” and “for”
B) Praying to someone other than God for something only God can give makes them a mediator between God and man.
2,760
posted on
06/05/2008 2:09:08 PM PDT
by
dan1123
(If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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