Posted on 05/28/2008 10:38:31 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- While apes evolved naturally into pre-human creatures, it was the will and desire of God that turned them into humans, an article in the Vatican newspaper said.
"The formation of human beings necessitated a particular contribution by God, though it remains that their emergence was brought about by natural causes" of evolution, it said.
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicnews.com ...
This is NOT a statement by the Roman Catholic Church.
No "missing link" fossil between apes and humans has ever been found. Humans did not "come from" apes.
primitive people wandering around in deserts with not enough food can imagine lots of things...
How does a virgin get pregnant .............. Errrrr, the same way they always have? In the back seat of a car?
That is the stupidest statement I’ve seen here this week, and that’s saying something.
There are plenty of candidates that would fit this description, so I don't think this is a fair statement. I think it might be more accurate to say that science doesn't agree as to what human ancestors were.
As a Christian, we are REQUIRED to believe in a virgin birth for our Christ. Can science prove or disprove that? We are REQUIRED to believe that Jesus was dead on the cross, yet rose from the dead after 3 days in the grave. Can science prove or disprove that? When I became "born again", I accepted the Word of God literally and Spiritually in total, word for word. I have been impressed that the Creation model has withstood the scrutiny of the nay sayers for decades now and am satisfied that God has done and can do what He says He can do.
The problem with adding to, or subtracting from Scriptures, and it's designed meaning, is you end up being one of the churches spoken of in Revelation that are asleep and lukewarm. You don't have the luxury of taking what you want from Scripture and deny the rest. Either God tells the truth or He is a liar and therefore not God. I learned early on that God's people will be persecuted so why not put your full faith in Jesus and to hell with the rest. They will just lead the masses to destruction. Believing in evolution is just that important to your salvation. I don't think there will be some sort of middle ground for the judgment of what we believe. We are saved by our faith, not anything else.
In order for Genesis to be literally correct over a century of collected archaeological, anthropological, and geological evidence and scientific observation would need to be dismissed.
These are unrelated questions.
not only is this blasphemy but it’s venal and weak.
Instead of simply pointing out the failures of the atheists in their ‘evolution theory’, we now have one of the last bastions of traditional faith volunteering to be co-opted by those who would gladly deny the existence not only of Jesus but of the Creator himself.
Count me out. This is the Jews for Jesus equivalent for Catholics. Total insanity.
Instilling ethos and ego is a pretty big ex nihilo miracle, dude.
You try it with a computer or other machine and tell us how far you get.
I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. For it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes. To the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
That was your choice. Nothing in Scripture demands that you take every word literally. You also run the risk that your faith could be totally shattered with the revelation of an undeniable scientific discovery which God blesses us with from time to time.
Personally, I see literalists as knowing all the words but never quite understanding the message. As to Creation, I have no desire to tell God how He should have done it. I'm simply content to know that He did... how He did it is immaterial as far as my faith is concerned.
Rather than throwing insults at people who disagree with your evolutionist views - why not answer the question? Just why do we still have Apes today when according to the writer of the posted story - they developed into pre-humans? That is not “the stupidest statement”, its a just a simple question..
If the apes were less survivable than their human counterparts, why did the less survivable version... well, survive?
That’s your question, right?
Different books of the Bible were written in different literary styles. Some were literal, historical texts.
Others, allegorical, like “blood up to the reins of the horses”. Seriously, that’s a lot of blood - it is most certainly an allegorical statement.
The Word, and the Holy Spirit, remain constant throughout time - but those created in God’s image don’t/didn’t have the capacity to understand things like “billions of years” or “replicative DNA”. These things had to be presented in a manner that didn’t blow the minds of the first people to read the Word.
I am no supporter of the RCC, but I have no reason to believe the RCC believes what this idiot says.
The one thing I’ve noticed on FR the last few years is how supposedly conservative people use liberal tactics to make their point, truth no longer matters, just put it in a headline and it becomes truth for the ignorant.
The biggest similarity in “debate tactics” that I’ve seen, and that surprises me, is the almost identical tactics used by atheist evos and liberals in general.
Well, St. Augustine wrote 1600 years ago that the creation narrative in Genesis was written in a manner that was a condescension to our limited ability to understand. I suppose that would qualify in your book as "denying the miracle of creation"?
If so, since we still haven't denied the Virgin Birth, I'd say the clock is at 1600 years and still running.
Instead of spending your time trying to make Catholics look bad, why don't you worry about the multitudinous heresies running around among liberal Protestants, who not only deny the Virgin Birth, but also the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Scriptures, the traditional Christian teaching on sexual morality, etc. ...
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