Posted on 05/21/2008 1:04:07 PM PDT by annalex
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On Salvation Outside the Catholic Church
The Great Heresies [Open]
Sounds like some good refresher reading.
As an Orthodox Christian, I believe I have been saved, am being saved and will be saved. That's the usual way I respond to evangelical "Have you been saved?" questions.
The Catholic and Orthodox positions seem identical.
You are on. Thank you for your interest.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent me 'has' everlasting life, and shall 'not' come into judgement, but 'has' passed from death to life.
John 5:24
This is an excellent and informative article that might clear up some of the misunderstanding between Catholics and Evangelicals
24 Amen, amen I say unto you, that he who heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath life everlasting; and cometh not into judgment, but is passed from death to life. 25 Amen, amen I say unto you, that the hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself: 27 And he hath given him power to do judgment, because he is the Son of man. 28 Wonder not at this; for the hour cometh, wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. 29 And they that have done good things, shall come forth unto the resurrection of life; but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.
Verse 24 speaks of salvation as a past event, and proceeds to talk of justification as future. We certainly believe that eternal life is with us now.
The author of this seems to simply have a reading comprehension problem.
Every passage that he quotes accepts salvation as a done deal, leaving our joy at avoiding condemnation as the only future effect. Indeed, the Lord himself declared it a done deal, in stating that he lost not one of us. Salvation is his work, not ours.
Amen!
Be careful, or we’ll call that nasty old religion mod...
Amen!
What are you defending?
This person apparently would like us to believe he is a biblical authority...And he claims that God teaches us that salvation is a past event...And God teaches us that it is a current, on-going event...And God also teaches us that salvation is a future event...
But he didn't explain how that works...You know why??? Because he doesn't have a clue...
This fella ought to find a career that he knows something about...
Speaking of reading comprehension, please re-read the part starting with “There is an ongoing aspect to salvation as well” and finishing with the end of the segment.
You mean, he fabricated Bible quotes?
he didn't explain how that works...
No, he didn't. Not in this article. All he did so far is show from scripture that salvation is a process as well as event. Stay tuned.
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