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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


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KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: restornu
I know that you son watches over you and I believe our love one visit us offten.

If one believes the bible, this is not so.

ALL are in the grave (wherever that location may be) awaiting that TRUMPET sound!


 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
 13.  Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope.
 14.  We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
 15.  According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
 16.  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
 17.  After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
 18.  Therefore encourage each other with these words.
 

 

861 posted on 02/23/2008 7:45:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: andysandmikesmom
And as always, various different people from various different Christian religions, will come to different understandings what those very same references actually mean...

Myself; I try to go with what the words actually say.

I've WAY too many folks spin them to mean something other than what they say.

862 posted on 02/23/2008 7:47:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zakeet
Apparently, they believe they can break the capsule open in emergency situations and thus deter death, alleviate pain, and better facilitate rapid recovery.

What??!

864 posted on 02/23/2008 7:54:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zakeet

givinggallery also there’s a box to enter a applies it (hopefully) and takes you to filling out the rest of guarantees, but its defintely worth a shot.


865 posted on 02/23/2008 7:57:33 PM PST by restornu
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To: nicmarlo
The temple where the ordinances can be administered for the dead, is the place to hear from the dead.

They have GOT to be kidding!!


 
 
 

Revelation 20
 
 1.  And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.
 2.  He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
 3.  He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
 4.  I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 5.  (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
 6.  Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
 7.  When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
 8.  and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
 9.  They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
 10.  And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 11.  Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
 12.  And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
 13.  The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
 14.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
 15.  If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

 
 
 

866 posted on 02/23/2008 7:58:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Got discouraged by all the contradictions and hypocrisy.

Grant, those things exist in Protestant churches.

Are you saying that they do NOT in the LDS Organization?

867 posted on 02/23/2008 8:00:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: andysandmikesmom
What I think has happened, is that when Murray says that all races of men were created on the 6th day of creation,

So I guess NOAH and his group represented 4 of the Races?

It don't compute!

868 posted on 02/23/2008 8:02:06 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
Isn't that what happened when the baptists let the pentecostal rewire the baptistry LOL

No!!

I'm just Shocked you'd say this!

BZzzz....


If you wire the tank heater backward, the water gets cold!

869 posted on 02/23/2008 8:04:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: humblegunner
So how are the two different?

One of them believes and lives more scripture.

870 posted on 02/23/2008 8:06:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Good night resty, bedtime, don’t let any “natural” men in your house.

Only un-natural ones for her; by golly!

871 posted on 02/23/2008 8:08:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

restornu, we are not here to clear up every error you make. If we did that for every poster we would never get any sleep.
Explain it on the thread and move on.
Thanks.
AM


872 posted on 02/23/2008 8:09:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Zakeet
 
MORMON LEADERS INVITE EXAMINATION AND CRITICISM

 
 
 
Uh... I think they have changed their mind!!

 
Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Apostle

873 posted on 02/23/2008 8:09:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne...

This "dead"......are they not the ones who were not made "alive" through belief in Christ?

I refer to, for example, the following passage:

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus... (Ephesians 2:4).

874 posted on 02/23/2008 8:09:43 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: restornu
I am sure the friendly RM would have removed it right away.

I detect anOTHER suckup!

;^)

875 posted on 02/23/2008 8:11:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

...and now a word from the half of loaf


876 posted on 02/23/2008 8:12:38 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; P-Marlowe; Saundra Duffy
You have a right to change your asbestos red suit too!:)

Is this what you've heard during some Temple ceremonies?

877 posted on 02/23/2008 8:12:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zakeet
Many people can't imagine the horrible comments about Blacks and American Indians in Mormon Scripture

You can be SURE this stuff would have been used against Mitt if he'd butted heads with Barak!

878 posted on 02/23/2008 8:14:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Ya never know what yer gonna get.”


879 posted on 02/23/2008 8:15:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You do realized those links are heresay!

Nope: they are factual.

880 posted on 02/23/2008 8:15:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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