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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: nicmarlo

Off hand, I don’t...but I will look and let you know.


361 posted on 02/22/2008 7:17:45 PM PST by pby
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To: nicmarlo
But I’m unaware of any Scriptures wherein Christ “counseled” His people to refuse to answer questions concerning their faith and beliefs, as has been implied on this thread.

That would be Professor Robert Millet; molder of young minds at BYU.

362 posted on 02/22/2008 7:18:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pby

ty much. At your leisure, of course!


363 posted on 02/22/2008 7:19:11 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Elsie
APPEAR??

OK...It was my attempt at being gracious and kind.

364 posted on 02/22/2008 7:19:58 PM PST by pby
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To: Elsie

ah....however, that’s still not in Scripture; ergo, not Scriptural.


365 posted on 02/22/2008 7:20:06 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

All you post, is what you consider to be the truth...no matter how many times, you try to say, that you know the truth, that does not make it so...keep repeating the same stuff, that does not make it so....all you have done is repeat and repeat and repeat the same stuff, and it is nothing more than your own personal opinion, which people can take or leave...

Your saying it is the truth, does not make it so...

So, you have made my day, tho I am sure, you did not intend to...


366 posted on 02/22/2008 7:22:26 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: nicmarlo; Elsie
ah....however, that’s still not in Scripture; ergo, not Scriptural.

Unless this molder of young minds, at BYU, is speaking as a prophet...then his words are scripture.

367 posted on 02/22/2008 7:22:49 PM PST by pby
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To: pby
TALK to me!

Why won't the Mormons on this thread answer this question?

368 posted on 02/22/2008 7:24:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: colorcountry

I’m sure you know very well that ‘Christian’ is a classification that includes many denominations, and ‘Mormon’ is a term used to denote a specific denomination (check the AP style guide even). FLDS are not Mormons just as Lutherans are not Catholics. They are all separate denominations, why try to confuse that fact?


369 posted on 02/22/2008 7:24:36 PM PST by Grig (Howard Dean + Terry McAulif = Mike Huckabee , Hillary Clinton + Obama = McCain)
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To: Grig

In your opinion, why are they not accepted in the LDS fold?


370 posted on 02/22/2008 7:25:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: nicmarlo
As to your other claims: False. It is my duty to proclaim the truth and expose lies.


 
 

Romans 6:17
   But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
 

 Romans 15:4
   For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 

 Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 

1 Corinthians 11:1-2
 1.  Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 

Ephesians 4:14
   Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
   In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 
 2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 

2 Timothy 2:2
  And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.

Hebrews 13:8-9
 8.  Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
 9.  Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by ceremonial foods, which are of no value to those who eat them.
 

2 John 1:10
   If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.


371 posted on 02/22/2008 7:26:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grig
Why are FLDS not Mormons?

They claim to be.

372 posted on 02/22/2008 7:26:48 PM PST by pby
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To: restornu

What is your twin sisters name?


373 posted on 02/22/2008 7:27:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN; Adam-ondi-Ahman; America always; Antonello; asparagus; BlueMoose; Choose Ye This Day; ...
Perhaps you’re not holding your mouth right. Or maybe you need to have the right handshake or or wear the right apron and make the right motions.

+++++++++++++

You post an answer designed to anger when asked to tell us which of the Christian churches is right.

As a self proclaimed, saved and born again, follower of Christ, you must know how your reply reflects on Jesus.

374 posted on 02/22/2008 7:27:42 PM PST by fproy2222 (Are you trying to convert us to Christ, as you understand Him, or just to be another nasty poster?)
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To: fproy2222
not an answer for the question;;;;;;;

"Sometimes we have to answer the question that SHOULD have been asked."

Surely you know from where THIS quote comes!

375 posted on 02/22/2008 7:28:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: andysandmikesmom
All you post, is what you consider to be the truth...no matter how many times, you try to say, that you know the truth, that does not make it so blah blah blah blah

lololol!

But Jesus said:

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6)

376 posted on 02/22/2008 7:29:41 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: andysandmikesmom
...I dont actually know you well enough, to give that reason...

Why not?

We don't get much more anonymous that here on FR.

377 posted on 02/22/2008 7:30:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; restornu
What is your twin sisters name?

I don't think that restornu is still around to enjoy the humor.

378 posted on 02/22/2008 7:30:24 PM PST by pby
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To: nicmarlo; andysandmikesmom

nic,

thank you for your input...

You are a blessing from God to the FReepers in these threads...

Jesus repeated His messages several times ..

We can never hear too many times the wonderful news that Jesus loves us and died to save us...

And the warnings about false prophets and false doctrines...

Again, thank you for all you do...

(((HUGS)))

:)


379 posted on 02/22/2008 7:30:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: nicmarlo

But I’m unaware of any Scriptures wherein Christ “counseled” His people to refuse to answer questions concerning their faith and beliefs, as has been implied on this thread.

6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

In other words don’t share what is of great importance with those who are faultfind, contenious or want to do harm etc


380 posted on 02/22/2008 7:30:47 PM PST by restornu (D&C 41: 6 things belonging to the children of the kingdom shouldn't be given to thoes not worthy,)
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