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DNA and the Dead Sea Scrolls how do the pieces fit!
BYU TV ^ | 1998 | Scott Woodward

Posted on 09/15/2007 11:47:41 AM PDT by restornu

Click Video- Learn how DNA was able to sort out and match the DDS fragments



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To: Reno232
We know the stick of Judah to be the bible.

HUH?

201 posted on 09/18/2007 4:48:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Girl
And for me, the Bible confirms the Book of Mormon, and the Book of Mormon confirms the Bible.

Which 'bible' is this?

The KJV, which is claimed to be poorly translated, or the JST, which has not been finished?

202 posted on 09/18/2007 4:49:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

You are being uncivil!

Don’t you KNOW that A&E had NO blood until...


203 posted on 09/18/2007 4:52:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
How do you get those animated thingies?

What do you mean by 'get'??

 

 

To post one (provided you know it's address on the web) do this:

 

Marker ... <IMG SRC="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/martin_fierro/Smilies/popcorn_animated.gif">

 

to get THIS:

Marker ...
 

204 posted on 09/18/2007 4:57:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reno232
I wanted your take on Ezekiel 37.
 
 
HMMmm...
 
Ezekiel 37
 
 1.  The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones.
 2.  He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry.
 3.  He asked me, "Son of man, can these bones live?"   I said, "O Sovereign LORD, you alone know."
 4.  Then he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones and say to them, `Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD!
 5.  This is what the Sovereign LORD says to these bones: I will make breath  enter you, and you will come to life.
 6.  I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.'"
 7.  So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone.
 8.  I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them.
 9.  Then he said to me, "Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live.'"
 10.  So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet--a vast army.
 11.  Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, `Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.'
 12.  Therefore prophesy and say to them: `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.
 13.  Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.
 14.  I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.'"
 15.  The word of the LORD came to me:
 16.  "Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, `Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, `Ephraim's stick, belonging to Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.'
 17.  Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand.
 18.  "When your countrymen ask you, `Won't you tell us what you mean by this?'
 19.  say to them, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph--which is in Ephraim's hand--and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.'
 20.  Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on
 21.  and say to them, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land.
 22.  I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.
 23.  They will no longer defile themselves with their idols and vile images or with any of their offenses, for I will save them from all their sinful backsliding,  and I will cleanse them. They will be my people, and I will be their God.
 24.  "`My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees.
 25.  They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children will live there forever, and David my servant will be their prince forever.
 26.  I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever.
 27.  My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be my people.
 28.  Then the nations will know that I the LORD make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.'"
 
 
It appears that it explains itself!!

205 posted on 09/18/2007 5:01:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reno232
Tell me what you feel the context is.

What part of ISRAEL is hard to understand?

206 posted on 09/18/2007 5:04:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
Explain why this is bigotry and intolerance?

You haven't kissed the ring; therefore you hate them!

207 posted on 09/18/2007 5:05:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
I love the Book of Enoch, I hope we get the rest of it someday.

Do not hold your breath.

208 posted on 09/18/2007 5:06:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Supposedly, there are 300 books written by Enoch, at least he says so in the little we have.

Speculation??

209 posted on 09/18/2007 5:07:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
Your whole attitude towards the LDS emanates contempt for the Church and the LDS themselves.

See!

I told you!

210 posted on 09/18/2007 5:08:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Here's some words of Joseph Smith to consider:

And here are some words of Jesus to think about:

KJV Matthew 13:24-30
24. Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25. But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28. He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29. But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

211 posted on 09/18/2007 5:11:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
This Spirit world polygamy is perhaps closer to the crux of the matter than I have realized. Spirit children evidently come from continual polygamous matings, but with whom? Does each planets Father mate with his daughters? Or does his sons mate with his daughters? Seems unavoidable.

Disgusting ALERT!!!

212 posted on 09/18/2007 5:12:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
That it is an error is evident, and it is so noted in the manuscripts to which access has been had in the preparation of the original work by the times and Seasons.

No; it is NOT 'evident', but that you CLAIM it is an error.

WHERE is the handwritten document that was given to the printer??

Showing the difference would PROVE an error.

No 'error' has been shown.

213 posted on 09/18/2007 5:15:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ODDITHER

“promise you won’t be brain washed into becoming Mormon”

Do you believe in free agency?


214 posted on 09/18/2007 5:16:47 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: sevenbak

Good attempt at diversion, but the facts remain that you do things in your Temoples that your scriptures do not authorize you to do.


215 posted on 09/18/2007 5:17:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
If God, who is unchangeable can change to fit the situation...

Nice logic; if you live a life that is based on situational ethics.

216 posted on 09/18/2007 5:20:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GLDNGUN

“More and more, the LDS Church wants to be regarded as a ‘mainline’ Christian church”

Actually, you are wrong about that. We just want people to know that we believe Jesus Christ is our Savior and the Savior of the whole world. And it would be nice if “mainline” Christian church people would stop telling Mormons what they think we believe.


217 posted on 09/18/2007 5:20:29 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: restornu

I am hoping to get to the exhibit in San Diego.

Papyrus Bar Kokhba 44—the Alma Scroll
5/6Heb 44
Scroll type: Simple deed
Date: 28 Marheshvan, Year 3 of Revolt (134 CE)
Language: Hebrew
Discovered: Cave of the Letters, Nahal Hever, 1961

This scroll demonstrates that people outside the Qumran community also hid scrolls in the mudstone caves. It is a lease agreement, which dates to 134 CE, after the destruction of the Qumran settlement by Roman soldiers. It describes a transaction for land previously owned by the government of Simeon Bar Kosiba (Bar Kokhba); leader of the second Jewish Revolt against the Romans (132-135 CE). The document mentions Bar Kokhba by name and as the “Prince of Israel,” a historical reference to his brief tenure as leader in this period.

Latter-day Saints find this scroll of particular interest, because it specifies “Alma son of Judah” as one of the people involved in the agreement on the fourth line and at the bottom of the document. This text contains the oldest known occurrence of the name “Alma” outside of the Book of Mormon.


218 posted on 09/18/2007 5:22:11 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Actually, you are wrong about that.

Right on!

In truth; the LDS Church wants to be known as the ONLY CORRECT Christian church.

219 posted on 09/18/2007 5:24:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Which things are that??

The LDS temple ordinances. Isn't that what we have been talking about?

You seem to think it important that you cannot find the temple ceremonies detailed in the LDS standard works. You won't say why you think so, but I gather that you believe it proves something about the LDS Church.

Well, it does prove something: not everything that is done by revelation in the Church is written down and included in the standard works.

220 posted on 09/18/2007 5:24:39 AM PDT by Logophile
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