Posted on 08/24/2007 4:35:33 PM PDT by NYer
I ask again, the ONLY prayer we are allowed is the Our Father?
"Dangerously Ill Reparo!"
Didn’t you write earlier that you were going to shut up?
There were other saints, Moses, and the other prophets, just like today there are many Christian saints and Mary.
Yet Jesus never addresses anyone else in his prayers. Why is that ?
You are comparing apples to oranges. We pray to the saints to pray for us. Just look at the Hail Mary. It ends.” Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. “
Did I ping you to this thread?
For every non-Romanist Christian who becomes a Romanist, of all levels of eduction, religious or otherwise, I can find five ex-Romanists who first heard the good news of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ in a non-Romanist Church.
That comes as no surprise. I know many Catholic parents who feel their children don't need to attend Religious Education. That makes them prime candidates for protestant evangelization.
How I led Catholics Out of the Church
So go ahead, follow your pope, your ceremonies, your Latin, and your man-made tradition, Ill follow Jesus.
It's good that you are following Jesus. With much prayer, He will lead you home to His Church - the Catholic Church, which includes the Church of Rome.
Text on Front The Blessed Virgin Mary grants seven graces to the souls who honor her daily by saying seven Hail Mary's and meditating on her tears and dolors. The devotion was passed on by St. Bridget. |
Text on Back HERE ARE THE SEVEN GRACES:
Seven Sorrows
The Hail Mary: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen |
You do realize that the two Greek phrases in Luke 1:28 and Acts 6:8 are DIFFERENT, right?
The one in Luke 1:28 is a past perfect participle. Mary was endowed with grace.
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2006/07/luke-128-full-of-grace-immaculate.html
Yet Jesus never addresses anyone else in his prayers. Why is that ?Jesus is God. For fallen humanity, asking others (here on earth and in Heaven) to pray TO God for us makes sense. For God to ask others to pray to Himself for His good makes no sense.
Being full of grace and blessed does not mean the same thing as sinless.
“How sad. So now the claim is that the angel Gabriel was praying to Mary?”
How silly. The Angel was addressing her, as we do when we Pray the Rosary. If I ask you to pray for me, am I praying TO you?
As for Gabriel, the story makes that case, not me. The child is saying that it is good to pray to Mary because of the scripture about the angel addressing Mary. What I posted was a question.
“Mary is dead ...”
So you do not believe in the Saints being ALIVE in Heaven? What is the name of your cult?
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The FReeper above says: Mary is dead ...Perhaps the Catholic Caucus can help open the eyes of our brother FReeper as to how alive the Mother of God truly is.
Mary is not walking around on the earth. Can you at least admit that? So how does she hear all those prayers all over the world at the same time without god like attributes?
Luke 3 has no 43-45
Mary is alive and in Heaven, along with the rest of the communion of saints.
You are mistaken about the nature of omniscience. Omniscience means “knowing everything”. Our Lady does not know everything. Only God the Father knows everything.
Our Lady and the rest of the saints are alive in Heaven, which lies outside of the space and time we know. In Heaven, all our yesterdays and tomorrows are one with the eternal “now”; the past and future are as an open book on a table to the saints. To speak of Heaven in terms of time is a misapprehension of the nature of Heaven, where there is no Was or Will Be, only an eternal I AM.
Heaven has no time. It is always and forever. And so is every person living there.
Thanks be to God! Please welcome them on behalf of the Chan Clan.
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