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Catholic Church & Jesus Christ-Why No One Should Be A Catholic
Apostolic Messianic Fellowship ^ | August 30, 2005 | Why No One Should Be A Catholic

Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool

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To: Salvation

My son was going to join the Marines and go to sniper school. Turns out that getting hit by a car when he was 14, disqualified him. I wanted to get him a gold St. Michael medal, and ship it to my former parish priest to bless it. Should get him one anyway...

PS: Thanks for posting the prayer. This thread is a hoot, isn't it? :)


341 posted on 03/04/2007 3:51:34 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: nmh; Mad Dawg

You do understand, I trust, that the canon of scriptures you read, at least the part not monkeyed with by the reformers to conform with the dictates of a council of Jewish elders in the late 1st century, was put together by a council of beared Greek speaking bishops of The Church sitting around saying, "This is in, this is out." don't you?

"The teachings of these inspired writers can be understood by the common people. We do not need official interpreters to understand the word, but we should use the word to check out the teachers!"

I take it the Eunuch's problem in Acts 8 is a fluke or some sort of slam on the intellectual ability of Ethiopians?




342 posted on 03/04/2007 4:00:55 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: TASMANIANRED

It's Scott Hahn, so it's either in "Rome Sweet Home" or "The Lamb's Supper" or both. Try your library; most of Scott's books are in ours, because they're so popular.


343 posted on 03/04/2007 4:03:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I like to call all clerical figures "Father." Bishop Slattery in Tulsa said that was what he preferred.


344 posted on 03/04/2007 4:05:17 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: GoLightly

Worship of God is not about your feelings.


345 posted on 03/04/2007 4:06:32 PM PST by steve8714
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To: AnAmericanMother; mockingbyrd

LOL! I'd have died. We offerred Bill a huge bribe (a trip to Stillwater to Eskimo Joe's hamburger joint!) if he could get through his First Communion Mass without a disaster. They had all the children sit together instead of with their parents, and every time Bill twitched our whole row would gasp ... but he kept it in until the Mass was over.

Then, while we were having punch and cake in the church lobby, Tom went outside and piddled on the grass, right in front of the windows! I hadn't been watching - there were a number of children and a few adults outside - until someone said, "Isn't that YOUR SON?!?" and I looked over and there he was, flappin' in the breeze.


346 posted on 03/04/2007 4:11:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: steve8714
Worship of God is not about your feelings.

That is SO important! It's like courage. Courage is about what you do when you wish you were home in bed. (Consequently courage is about nearly everything I do because I nearly always wish I were home in bed.)

347 posted on 03/04/2007 4:16:04 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("Now we are all Massoud.")
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To: Kolokotronis
I think it extraordinarily merciful -- almost Providential, you might say -- of God to put off inventing Turks until after the canon and the major theological questions were nailed down. When there was nothing left to fight about there, God saw the Greeks were getting, ah, well, you know, like Greeks, restive you might say, so he brought in the Turks to keep 'em occupied and battle-ready (and to spare the rest of us).

(I'm assuming you know the Kazantzakis story about Greeks and Turks?)

348 posted on 03/04/2007 4:20:28 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("Now we are all Massoud.")
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To: Bigg Red

I think we definitely need to pray for the author of this article.


349 posted on 03/04/2007 4:21:22 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick
No matter who I get in line for, I always wind up with our Parochial Vicar.

I was in one line for three priests at the Penance Service - one of whom was the Cardinal . . . when up the aisle, late (his plane was late) comes panting the parochial vicar, doing up his collar and putting on his stole as he ran . . . and yes, when I got to the head of the line it was his turn!

He gives the most amazing penances . . . some are pretty difficult to perform . . . take days or even weeks to get done . . .

350 posted on 03/04/2007 4:22:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Again, a demonstration of a protestant being ignorant...

You said, "good works have nothing to do with it" - but the Bible says "faith without works is dead."

Which one is it? Whom will you believe? Calvin? Luther? Jimmy Swaggart?

Or the Bible?


351 posted on 03/04/2007 4:22:49 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: steve8714
Worship of God is not about your feelings.

You think God wants us to just go through the motions? Worship is about ritual & we can leave our hearts out of it?

352 posted on 03/04/2007 4:27:05 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: AnAmericanMother

My pastor isn't like that at all! We have separate lines for the different priests at our penance services, so if you get in a slow line, you're stuck.

After four years, I know who the talkative priests are, so I can avoid them if I'm in a hurry. I usually make an appointment on a weekday with our pastor, for myself and the four relevant children. Der Prinz sometimes goes to the penance services; his sins are up to him!


353 posted on 03/04/2007 4:27:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

**This thread is a hoot, isn't it? :)**

Absolutely.


354 posted on 03/04/2007 4:27:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Are you a Catholic? Would you like to be on the Catholic Ping List?

I do the Daily Readings, prayer requests, Saint of the Day, seasonal things and apologetics/ catechetics/prayer.

There are two Catholic ping lists. NYer usually posts news stories. Please contact her if you want to be on that list also.


355 posted on 03/04/2007 4:28:34 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick

What a story. I'm practically rolling on the floor. At least I'm laughing so heard that I am coughing.


356 posted on 03/04/2007 4:31:09 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick

Thankx TC...


357 posted on 03/04/2007 4:33:00 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (No stinking peanut butter.)
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To: Mad Dawg
"God saw the Greeks were getting, ah, well, you know, like Greeks, restive you might say, so he brought in the Turks to keep 'em occupied and battle-ready (and to spare the rest of us)."

Yup, knowing the spiritual weakness of the Frankified West and figuring that we Orthodox would be able to withstand the onslaught of Mohammedanism and oppression, remaining true to The Faith, He set us up as a wall against which the Turks would spend their strength. Unfortunately, by the 16th century, we were otherwise occupied and unable to save you from the Protestant Revolution (as the nuns used to call it) But we may yet save you from the new Mohammedan waves! :)
358 posted on 03/04/2007 4:33:36 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: GoLightly
You took time in your response to me & I am doing the same in my response to you.

Thank you!

I can't think of any other way to put it, but the Roman Catholic Church leaves me cold. I've never felt welcome or closer to God when I was in any Catholic church. For those who've found the answer there, more power to them.

I've had similar moments ... and I am Roman Catholic :-). However, the Roman Catholic (or Latin) Church as it is more properly called, is only one of 22 Churches that make up the One, Holy, Catholic Church. Jesus was a Jew, as were His mother and disciples. Christianity began in the East and spread West. It is in the Maronite Catholic Church, that I have found my spiritual home.

359 posted on 03/04/2007 4:36:04 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: nmh
OOdles more of falce Catholic teachings exposed here:

Do you seriously think that I have not considered these verses?

YOu may not understand the phrase "random scripture generator". It arose because a certain militant protestant would repeat the same excerpt from Isaiah over and over and over and over and over again. Now this was fine if this person meant to "count coup" and gain honor among her anti-catholic friends. But it didn't make any difference to her interlocutors because we had read the same excerpt and reached a different conclusion.

SO now you haul out the same old tired verses which show to Protestants that they are right to despise us but which do not make any impression on us because we've read them a hundred times before, thought about them, (NOT ignored them, as you falsely charge) and decided that they reach their fulfillment in the Church which we hold (YMMV) was founded by our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

What is your evidence that I ignore these Scriptures? If you have none, why do you say I ignore them while professing to speak the truth? You keep shooting, and yet not a round reaches us.Check your sights.

And by the way: I always labor under the suspicion that people who are so sure I'm wrong that they don't even try to understand what I think are really more interested in control than in anything else. When somebody who shows no signs of interest in me or my opinions uses as an almost opening conversational gambit the suggestion that I go hunt around a bunch of scriptural citations to find out how wrong I am, I just, well, enjoy my sabbath rest. Not only do you want to show yourself superior and therefore entitled to insult and slander, you want me to do all the work! Forget about it!


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360 posted on 03/04/2007 4:37:28 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("Now we are all Massoud.")
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