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2,000-year-old toilet may solve an ancient mystery
Arizona Star ^ | January 03, 2007

Posted on 01/03/2007 7:00:38 AM PST by Alex Murphy

QUMRAN, West Bank — The discovery of a 2,000-year-old toilet at one of the world's most important archaeological sites is focusing renewed interest on a question that has preoccupied scholars for more than half a century: Who lived at Qumran?

In a new study, three researchers say they have discovered the outdoor latrine used by the ancient residents of Qumran, on the barren banks of the Dead Sea. They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem to seek proximity to God in the desert.

Qumran and its environs have already yielded many treasures: the remains of a settlement with an aqueduct and ritual baths, ancient sandals and pottery, and perhaps the greatest archaeological find of the 20th century: the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The scrolls, which include fragments of the books of the Old Testament and treatises on communal living and apocalyptic war, have shed important light on Judaism and the origins of Christianity.

Thanks to an Israeli anthropologist, an American textual scholar and a French paleoparasitologist, researchers can now add another find: human excrement.

Subject of lively debate

The discovery is more significant than it may seem. The nature of the settlement at Qumran is the subject of a lively academic debate.

The traditional view, supported by a majority of scholars since the site was first excavated in the 1950s, is that the settlement was inhabited by Essene monks who observed strict rules of ritual purity and celibacy and who wrote many of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The second school says the people living at Qumran were farmers, potters or soldiers, and had nothing to do with the Essenes. The scrolls, according to this view, were written in Jerusalem and stashed in caves at Qumran by Jewish refugees fleeing the Roman conquest of the city in the first century.

The researchers behind the latrine finding, which is being published in the scholarly journal Revue de Qumran, say it supports the traditional view linking the residents of Qumran with the Essenes.

A description of Essene practice by the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius in the first century notes that Essene rules required them to distance themselves from inhabited areas to defecate and "dig a trench a foot deep" which was then to be covered with soil.

Joe Zias, a Jerusalem-based anthropologist, and James Tabor, a Dead Sea Scrolls expert from the University of North Carolina, decided to look for the Qumran latrine. If it was far from the settlement ruins and if the excrement was buried, it would offer evidence the people living at the site were Essenes.

Zias and Tabor identified an area behind a rock outcropping, took soil samples and sent them to Stephanie Harter-Lailheugue, a French scientist specializing in ancient parasites. The samples tested positive for pinworms and two other intestinal parasites found only in humans.

Traces found underground

The excrement traces were found underground — meaning the feces had been buried, as required by Essene law — a nine-minute walk uphill from the settlement.

Still, there is no way to date the fecal parasites, which could have been left by Bedouin. To counter this, the paper quotes a Bedouin scholar as saying the nomads do not bury their feces.

Another problem is that archaeologists have already identified a toilet at Qumran — inside the settlement. But Zias believes it was for emergencies: In some cases, divine commandments notwithstanding, nine minutes outside the camp was too far to go.


TOPICS: History; Judaism; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: deadseascrolls; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; israel; letshavejerusalem
Hopefully this thread doesn't violate the Religion Forum's rules re "potty language" :D
1 posted on 01/03/2007 7:00:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

The Ancient Mystery: Was the lid left up on purpose?


2 posted on 01/03/2007 7:03:29 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Alex Murphy
They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem to seek proximity to God in the desert.

Wow, they learned all that from a potty?

3 posted on 01/03/2007 7:10:25 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: theDentist
The Ancient Mystery: Was the lid left up on purpose?

And did their wives complain about it?

4 posted on 01/03/2007 7:11:53 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mtbopfuyn
Wow, they learned all that from a potty?

Hey, if the Penguin can find the top-secret blueprints for the Batmobile in the Gotham sewer system, why should the current story surprise anyone?

5 posted on 01/03/2007 7:26:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem to seek proximity to God in the desert.

If they really used the word "proves" then they aren't very good scholars. It might strongly suggest, but it couldn't possibly prove their views.

6 posted on 01/03/2007 7:28:39 AM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Alex Murphy
To counter this, the paper quotes a Bedouin scholar as saying the nomads do not bury their feces.

True. Muhammed and the bedouins of the Arabian Peninsula preferred to spread their crap as far and wide as they could.
7 posted on 01/03/2007 7:31:11 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Alex Murphy
A description of Essene practice by the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius in the first century notes that Essene rules required them to distance themselves from inhabited areas to defecate and "dig a trench a foot deep" which was then to be covered with soil.

Guess nobody is immune to faulty logic.

All Essenes may have dug trenches for waste disposal, but not all peoples who dug trenches for waste disposal were Essenes...

D'oh! It doesn't take much "civilization" to eventually realize that being as far away from our own bodily wastes, or burying it as an alternative, is desireable simply for "aesthetic" reasons.

8 posted on 01/03/2007 9:57:56 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Alex Murphy
distance themselves from inhabited areas to defecate and "dig a trench a foot deep" which was then to be covered with soil.

I remember doing this at Boy Scout camp when I was a kid.

If it was far from the settlement ruins and if the excrement was buried, it would offer evidence the people living at the site were Essenes.

I never knew the Scouts were Essenes.

the feces had been buried, as required by Essene law — a nine-minute walk uphill from the settlement.

Uphill? No one in any civilization puts a latrine uphill from where they are living.

9 posted on 01/03/2007 8:35:07 PM PST by Between the Lines (Liberalism: the insanity that results from too many people living in close proximity to one another.)
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I've seen Martin Luther's toilet, which archeologists only discovered in Wittenberg a couple years ago. It was right where the Reformer said it was, just a few steps from his office (which they also discovered) in the basement of a newly discovered tower foundation. The Germans let you peer inside the latrine and see the seat, still there!

Kind of interesting, especially in the fact that the tower had central heating...early in the 16th Century.


10 posted on 01/03/2007 9:05:03 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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Thanks Alex Murphy.

Note: this topic is dated January 03, 2007.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 6:03:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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