Posted on 04/24/2006 6:48:22 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
"It's not a question of 'maybe' or 'if'," says the Temple Institute's Rabbi Yisrael Ariel. "Bringing the Paschal sacrifice is a Torah obligation incumbent upon the People of Israel these very days."
Speaking with Yoel Yaakobi of the weekly B'Sheva newspaper, Rabbi Ariel said that though there are some grave Halakhic [Jewish legal] problems associated with bringing the Paschal sacrifice, "we have found the solutions, and the obligation is as strong as ever. This is one of the only two positive Biblical commandments that those who forsake it are liable to receive the ultimate karet [cutting off] punishment. From the moment that a Jew stands on the Temple Mount and the site of the Holy Temple is under our control, the Jewish People are immediately obligated to bring this sacrifice."
Sixteen of the 613 Biblical commandments relate to the Paschal sacrifice, which must be brought on the 14th day of the month of Nissan - Passover eve - and eaten on the night of the 15th. Today, this sacrifice is remembered only in the form of the Afikoman, the piece of matzah snatched and hidden by children during the Pesach seder meal, by the small roasted shank-bone on the Seder plate, and by prayers and study.
Rabbi Ariel said, "After the destruction of the First Temple, when the Jews began returning from Babylonia to the Holy Land, they brought the Paschal sacrifice during the course of 22 years even though there was no Holy Temple. They also were considered ritually impure - because there was no Red Heifer by which to become pure - yet they still brought it... There is currently no genuine impediment to bringing the Paschal sacrifice."
There have been other attempts to renew this sacrifice over the years, or at least to solve the Halakhic problems involved. Speaking about the rabbis who came to the Holy Land 700 years ago and sought to pave the way to offer the Pesach lamb, Rabbi Ariel said,"It is simply disgraceful when we compare our actions with theirs. They were here after the Crusaders, when there were perhaps 1,000 Jews in the whole land, which was totally desolate, and tried to renew this commandment. And yet we have 5-6 million Jews, and we have an army with tanks and planes, and what are we doing? ... Over 2,000 years ago, the Jews were afraid to live in Jerusalem, yet they made it obligatory for one out of every ten men to work towards building the Holy Temple, and they started the sacrifice services amidst the ruins of the First Temple. And where are we? Should we not be ashamed?"
Among the problems that Rabbi Ariel says have been solved by the Temple Institute he heads in Jerusalem are the following: Ritual impurity (which applies only to individuals, not to the entire nation), the precise location of the altar, and the sacred priestly garments, which the Institute has recently completed fashioning according to Biblical requirements. He emphasizes, of course, that the exact details of these and other issues are complex and must be reviewed with rabbinical experts. "I don't say that there aren't problems, but as the Maharatz Chayut has written, there is no Halakhic problem in the Temple that cannot be solved."
"Why then do you not go and sacrifice the Pesach sacrifice yourself?" Rabbi Ariel was asked.
"Have you just now returned from the moon?" he answered with pain. "The government has established a special police unit just for the Temple Mount. A Jew is forbidden even to move his lips there - and you want me to go there with my sheep and building tools to build an altar?!...
"The problem, which has received the silent backing of the rabbinical world, is that we have allowed the Arabs to be in charge of the Mount, and so they play soccer there. That's what happened when Moshe Dayan gave the Temple Mount keys to the Arabs after the Six Day War. First they give them the keys, then they say, 'It's impossible to regain control,' and then they say, 'We don't know [all the details of the Temple Mount and the altar, etc.].' The 200 commandments that are connected with the Temple cry out every day, 'Jews, where are you?!'"
Hmmmmmm
First time in 2,000 years . . .
1. Israel is again a nation in a day as Biblically predicted.
2. Jerusalem is a burdensome weight around the neck of the world as Biblically predicted.
3. Russia, Iran, China are against Israel as Biblically predicted.
4. A global government is on the near horizon as Biblically predicted.
5. Said global government has prepared the SLAG [SLAve taG] computer chip implant ID to be required to be injected in every world citizen or they won't be able to buy or sell . . . as Biblically predicted.
6. Babylon may be rebuilt as a NWO globalist financial and power center . . . consistent with Biblical prophecy.
7. All this in an era in which knowledge has been dramatically increased and in which people go to and fro upon the earth as never before in recorded history--as Biblically predicted.
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Yet, the naysayers hereon will insist that all such is coincidence. That nothing has changed in 2,000 years; that every year's people have predicted the end times for their era . . .
though really . . .
there are dozens upon dozens of prophetic data points which have only come true in our era . . . and many more which are all cocked and ready to come true.
. . . including a new Temple and the Temple sacrifices.
PRAISE GOD FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS TO HIS WORD AND TO THOSE HE LOVES.
Methinks you are mixing apples and . . . fools gold rocks.
Oh, that's right, you're one of those who thinks God left Blood Israel in the dust . . .
contrary to abundant Scriptures.
Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, this person does not belong to him. 8:10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is your life because of righteousness. 8:11 Moreover if the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, the one who raised Christ from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his Spirit who lives in you.
The Holy Spirit is the same Spirit of Christ. Jesus, the Messiah(Christ) is God.
Ephesians 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God – a mature person, attaining to the measure of Christ’s full stature.
Son of God is a title of deity.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus is the Word. The Word is God.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. He is worshiped as God in Heaven as we see from Revelation.
Joh 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe." Joh 20:28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
The Jews as a nation are God's chosen people. Always have been, always will be.
There is a huge difference between "too hard" and "against His nature".
When God took the body of a man and the nature of a man, He kept all of His divinity.
That is trinitarian doublespeak. Flesh is flesh; spirit is spirit. Babylon = mixture. Hashem is not Babylonish in nature and therefore never at war with His own fleshly nature and desires.
Num 23.19. God is not a man, that he should lie; nor the son of man, that he should repent; Has he said, and shall he not do it? or has he spoken, and shall he not make it good:
Glad to read it.
I get weary of the other silly position.
Thanks.
Glad you're back BUMP
God appeared twice as a man in the Old Testament. Once to Abraham in Gen. 18 and ate a meal. Once to Israel in Gen. 32 in which Israel wrestled with Him and latter named a place which means I met God face to face.
Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
08549 tamiym {taw-meem'}
from 08552; TWOT - 2522d; adj
AV - without blemish 44, perfect 18, upright 8, without spot 6,
uprightly 4, whole 4, sincerely 2, complete 1, full 1, misc 3; 91
1) complete, whole, entire, sound
1a) complete, whole, entire
1b) whole, sound, healthful
1c) complete, entire (of time)
1d) sound, wholesome, unimpaired, innocent, having integrity
1e) what is complete or entirely in accord with truth and fact
(neuter adj/subst)
Ezekiel 28:12-15
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect [8549] in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
1 Kings 11:4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect [8003] with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.
08003 shalem {shaw-lame'}
from 07999; TWOT - 2401d; adj
AV - perfect 16, whole 4, full 2, just 1, peaceable 1, misc 3; 27
1) complete, safe, peaceful, perfect, whole, full, at peace
1a) complete
1a1) full, perfect
1a2) finished
1b) safe, unharmed
1c) peace (of covenant of peace, mind)
1c1) perfect, complete (of keeping covenant relation)
Christianity uses a non-Biblical definition of "perfect" so as to justify the man-god trinity doctrine.
If you think you understand this "proof" text so well, why don't you see that in the beginning the word was "God"; that is, Elohim? It's right there in the beginning, the word elohim.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Bereshith bara elohim et hashamayim v'et haaretz.
There's the *literal* word "elohim".
THANKS TONS Dear One.
1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Jesus is the Christ and the Christ is a MAN...anyone who denies this is antichrist.
Lifeorgoods, your beliefs are antichrist.
God is spirit. Jesus is a man. God is spirit. Jesus came in the flesh. There is only one God and God is one.
1 John 5:18-21
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
Either no one is born of G-d, or the christian concept of sinlessness and perfection is a different gospel than that portrayed in the Scripture. When Jesus said, "Sin no more", he either meant it (in a way apparently beyond christian comprehension skills), or he was being sarcastic, or he was giving people a false hope.
Matthew 19:16-26
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Either Jesus just contradicted his answer in verse 21, or the Biblical concept of perfect is different than perfection defined and then demanded by man. Hashem is gracious and consistent, whereas man will keep moving the goalpost, demanding always more, never satisfied.
XLNT
Thanks for the pings. We went to my wife's parents' church for the easter service. The sermon was "CSI: Jerusalem". It was a very slick presentation complete with huge graphics on 2 screens behind the pastor. During the closing prayer there were 4 separate references to Jesus as God. This was not just a bluring of identity. One quote: "Thank you Father for coming down and sacrificing yourself for us...". Nobody else even caught it (or cared), but this was done 4 times. When I asked people about it, it was obvious that most don't think about it much. They understand that God the Father and Jesus are 2 different beings and that Jesus is God's son. None really had an understanding of what the trinity really means. They just know that they believe in the trinity, even if they can't explain it.
By your definition of Antichrist the Jews are also Antichrist. I have not denied that Jesus was a man. Why would a man come in the flesh? What other man in the Bible is said to have come in the flesh? John made sure to put the emphasis on the fact that Jesus the Son of God had came into human flesh.
Sin is the cause of God's wrath. Only a sinless man could be a propitiation for the sins of the world. No man was ever nor can ever be sinless, because he will always have human nature that comes from Adam. Jesus was the new Adam, the new Man, The Son of Man--perfect and sinless. Only God is perfect and sinless. Only a man with a divine nature could me sinless.
1Jo 2:24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.
You must abide in the Son just as well as the Father. They are coequal.
Mat 1:20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
Mat 1:21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins."
Mat 1:22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
Mat 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel" (which means, God with us).
Born of a virgin? Jesus did not come from the seed of man. Jesus did have a human nature, and just as Adam began, Jesus began sinless. But not like Adam, Jesus continued perfect, and without sin his entire life.
Perhaps you should use a modern translation that uses the English in use today.
1Jo 5:18 We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Does not keep on sinning or does not stay in a life of sin.
Barnes notes: 1Jo 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not - Is not habitually and characteristically a sinner; does not ultimately and finally sin and perish; cannot, therefore, commit the unpardonable sin. Though he may fall into sin, and grieve his brethren, yet we are never to cease to pray for a true Christian: we are never to feel that he has committed the sin which has never forgiveness, and that he has thrown himself beyond the reach of our prayers. This passage, in its connection, is a full proof that a true Christian “will” never commit the unpardonable sin, and, therefore, is a proof that he will never fall from grace. Compare the notes at Keepeth himself - It is not said that he does it by his own strength, but he will put forth his best efforts to keep himself from sin, and by divine assistance he will be able to accomplish it. Compare the And that wicked one toucheth him not - The great enemy of all good is repelled in his assaults, and he is kept from falling into his snares. The word “toucheth” (
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