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To: Eagle Eye
God in human form is not sin. Where you get the idea that Jesus was the savior of all mankind without being God is not in line with the logic of the New Testament. How can anyone be perfect who is not God? Only a sinless sacrifice is worthy for an everlasting atonement. Jesus could not have been sinless if He was not God.

Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, this person does not belong to him. 8:10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is your life because of righteousness. 8:11 Moreover if the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, the one who raised Christ from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his Spirit who lives in you.

The Holy Spirit is the same Spirit of Christ. Jesus, the Messiah(Christ) is God.

Ephesians 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God – a mature person, attaining to the measure of Christ’s full stature.

Son of God is a title of deity.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is the Word. The Word is God.

Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. He is worshiped as God in Heaven as we see from Revelation.

Joh 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe." Joh 20:28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"

43 posted on 05/04/2006 11:57:32 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: LifeOrGoods?; the-ironically-named-proverbs2; Eagle Eye
How can anyone be perfect who is not God?

Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

08549 tamiym {taw-meem'}
from 08552; TWOT - 2522d; adj

AV - without blemish 44, perfect 18, upright 8, without spot 6,
uprightly 4, whole 4, sincerely 2, complete 1, full 1, misc 3; 91

1) complete, whole, entire, sound
1a) complete, whole, entire
1b) whole, sound, healthful
1c) complete, entire (of time)
1d) sound, wholesome, unimpaired, innocent, having integrity
1e) what is complete or entirely in accord with truth and fact
(neuter adj/subst)

Ezekiel 28:12-15

12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect [8549] in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.


1 Kings 11:4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect [8003] with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.

08003 shalem {shaw-lame'}
from 07999; TWOT - 2401d; adj
AV - perfect 16, whole 4, full 2, just 1, peaceable 1, misc 3; 27

1) complete, safe, peaceful, perfect, whole, full, at peace
1a) complete
1a1) full, perfect
1a2) finished
1b) safe, unharmed
1c) peace (of covenant of peace, mind)
1c1) perfect, complete (of keeping covenant relation)

Christianity uses a non-Biblical definition of "perfect" so as to justify the man-god trinity doctrine.

50 posted on 05/05/2006 12:27:39 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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