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Prophecy today, Isaiah 14 is happening before us. (long vanity)
Eye witness news ^ | Aug 13, 2005 | American in Israel

Posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:17 AM PDT by American in Israel

Blessings to my fellow Freepers.

I have been a long time poster here on Freeper, but normally I always stay in the Foreign Affairs section. So much news, so little time. But this time, while I am still posting about my experience in Israel, my subject is eschatology, or the study of final prophetic events of the end of this age.

For thousands of years prophecy's in the Bible have sat on the pages like little kitchen clocks, wound up tight and frozen in place. No ticking, no action, just a paper weight. For many generations they have been knick-naks of curiosity for us to ponder over and set back in place when frankly, they do nothing. They are fun to talk about, but cannot hold interest long because they just do not apply to our lives much.

Much of the Bible is doctrine, and teaches us how to live in a right place with our Creator. Much of the bible is History which teaches us a different thing, not doctrine but what life is like. But part of that history is prophecy, not of the past, but of the future. God is timeless and omnipresent. So God when he tells us prophecy, does not tell us what He wants, He simply tells us what happened then.

This is a very significant time in Biblical History. This as in today, this Saturday, this week. This is a day that was written about in those little kitchen clock prophecies that you and I have played with, but frankly ignored more often than not. When is the last time you read from the Prophets in the Bible?

Imagine my shock last year when I discovered that many of the little kitchen decorations sitting on the shelf for a couple of thousand years have suddenly sprung to life and have been ticking in the empty kitchen of my Old Testament Bible study?

It is not that one is ticking, but many suddenly are!

For example Isaiah 14:29-32 and Zephniah 2. Long dormant, from the day of their birth, their little dials are moving now, and the ominous sound ticking is reverberating in that empty room. Today is an important day, a day of the next ratcheting click is upon us once again.

This Saturday is the evening of the Sabbath before the 9th of Av on the Hebrew calendar. This is an important day in History, a day of disaster that affects the world. It is the day of the destruction of both temples, a day of the beginning of the Spanish Inquistion, a day of the beginning of the World Wars in Europe. It is the day of the beginning of the expulsion of the Jews from their land by the United States of America. It is a day of infamy, of disaster and of historical shifts of the mega sort.

This day of the year is a traditional fast of mourning for the Jewish people, and may just become a day of mourning for the United States. People often say to me they do not see the United States in prophecy for some strange reason. There is a reason for that. One, they are looking in the wrong places, and two, because where it is listed it is not for good, but for bad.

In Isaiah 14, a puzzle is placed, a keyhole to the prophecy that you must find the exact key to fit. Once that lock is unlocked, the clock begins to count down to the destruction of the Palestinians. Not a normal destruction, but a complete wipeout from the Hand of God. This puzzle, or key hole is simply put like this:

Isaiah 14:28 This is the burden which came in the year that King Ahaz died.

Isaiah:29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper, And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

Let me translate this into a key.

King Ahaz died over 200 years after King David conquered the Philistines in the area of Gaza and annexed their land into his kingdom. Nobody had seen a living Philistine for generations when this prophecy came, and to this day we know virtually nothing about their fishing villages in this area as they were effectively wiped from the earth. There is very little remains of them even for archeologists. We do know that they were a Greek colony of people and that they were worshipers of Baal. We do not know what became of them.

This is very significant, as the Prophecy could not have meant the Philistines of Ancient times as when this prophecy was given, there were none. It has to be a prophecy of a modern race of people claiming to be Philistia.

Like the Palestinians, who pronounce it Falistia, as in Arabic they do not have a P sound. They may not be able to pronounce it, but they claim to be it. Funny huh?

Now we have defined the location of the lock, let us define the key.

The area of Palestine was always a backwater nomans land since the Islamic Horde wiped out the remnants of Israel's culture 1400 years ago. Nobody set up a kingdom there, it was always just a place, not a state. The Arabs, Christians and Jews that lived there were subject to various Kings and rulers, that changed like the tide, but none chose to live there or set up a kingdom there. Who would? It was an economically depressed land that barely supported the people that sustenance farmed its hot and unforgiving landscape. It was always ruled from afar, as a very poorly producing tax land by distant rulers.

That changed in the early days of the Nazi Empire. A local clan leader united the Arabs under the Nazi flag and became known as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He set up a kingdom on the coattails of Hitler pronouncing unity in the goal of extermination of the Jews.

He was a harsh task master to the Arabs, living with a Nazi king is always so I suspect. But he whipped the Arabs into some semblance of unity. A unity that was not shattered when his rule was broken by the British in their victory over Hitler at the end of the war and the formation of the State of Israel.

29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken..

And the timer, for the first time in over 2500 years ticked.

That Rod, was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and who he struck was that people, the Arab immigrants to the historical land of Israel. They were to be united again under the nephew of the Grand Mufti within one generation. His name was Yassar Arafat.

The word for Rod in Hebrew is Shevet, it is also used for Tribe. The rulers of the "Falistia" were a tribe from the Egyptian conquest. So both meanings of the word are in play, it is a pun, son. Who says God has no sense of humor?

For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper,

And the timer ticked again…

The Hebrew word for serpent is nahash, it simply means snake. But the word for viper is the word sefaph, it means a poisonous snake.

Yassar Arafat proved to indeed be a poisonous snake. It was he who invented modern terrorism as a State sponsored ideal. It was he who founded the death squad in Arab controlled lands here that execute any political opposition in public torture sessions. It was he who changed the living standard from then thousand a month (80% of the wages of his Jewish neighbors) to an average barely a thousand dollars a month. And it was he who crushed the people under an iron boot of multiple terrorist police forces battling for supremacy under his unforgiving rule.

Life became much harder under the hand of this ruler. And the next generation of Palestinians grew up in Arafat's schools, being trained from birth to be bomb fuses for Jihad, and being trained that the land they never owned, and the cities they never built was actually theirs and worth dying for. But, he, like all dictators eventually do, died.

And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

And the clock ticked the third time.

This time there is no successor from the root of the Rod or Tribe, the offspring of Arafat is the present government forming under the careful hand of President Bush from the ruins of the terrorist regime of Arafat. It is forming in a democratic way, the violently abused "Falistia" fresh from the mind numbing Jihad factories called schools. America my friends, pays for the books in those schools. The victims of those brainwashing factories are voting in Hamas and Fatah, the two most notorious terrorist groups in the Middle-East. Fatah who founded terrorism, and Hamas, who spread it through the West.

While we gave them democracy, we placed them under terrorist leaders, for it was America who insisted that Arafat be given rule and reign over the Arabs of Palestine when he was defeated in his bid for a kingdom in Lebanon. A bid that lead to the slaughter of over 100,000 Arab Lebanese.

The Hebrew words translated as fiery flying serpent here is literally flying viper with a side picture of demonic power. And demonic it is, for Hamas has instituted a Taliban like rule in Gaza that puts Afghanistan to shame. Instead of a trail and public execution, the roaming Hamas thugs make Islamic Fatwas on the spot and slaughter any passerby's that are deemed not Islamic enough.

Such was the fate a couple of months ago of a young betrothed couple walking together on a public beach downtown Gaza City. They had the grooms young sister as a escort, as a young couple are not allowed to be unescorted by a family member according to the social rules of Islam. This was on a public beach in the main city mind you, not some private place. Hamas ruled on the spot that the young sister was not enough escort and informed the couple of the fact by four of them emptying their AK47's into the bride to be. They then beat her remains to a pulp with bats and iron pipes and then continued on to hospitalize the groom and his little sister.

Truly, the Palestinians live with a dragon as a ruler now.

This key clearly unlocks the timer on this prophecy, and the next step is the complete destruction of the Palestinian Arabs.

First a promise to the Christian Arabs, a people who are rarely spirit filled and rather bitter towards the Jews due to being raised and steeped in this bitter regime of Islamic rulers. But a people most oppressed of any in this dark area of the world. For the Islamic's hate the Christians most of all as the Jews are all dead or gone.

Isaiah 14:30 The firstborn of the poor will feed, And the needy will lie down in safety;

But then the next part chills the blood:

I will kill your roots with famine, And it will slay your remnant.

The first born will be saved, but the families will be destroyed. Even among the poor there will be few survivors, but among the Muslims?

31 Wail, O gate! Cry, O city! All you of Philistia are dissolved; For smoke will come from the north, And no one will be alone in his appointed times."

This phrase speaks in Hebrew of appointments in the smoke, and there will be no loners without appointments in it. That appointment is destruction and the smoke? Well remember that God appeared as a column of fire by night and a cloud or SMOKE by day.

God Himself may be coming to destroy them.

But the most chilling statement in the whole prophecy for Americans, the pushers of this "Roadmap to Peace" that demands that Israel surrender the land given to them by God, is the last line:

Isaiah 14:32 What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD has founded Zion, And the poor of His people shall take refuge in it.

When this all goes south as it clearly will with the destruction of the Palestinians, What will be said to the Nation that pushed this plan on Israel and its innumerable Condis' and Powels and Generals and diplomats serving the hard line?

That the land of Israel is founded by God, for His people, not the political solutions of a Nation that has no right force the land to be given to others.

This my friends is a rebuke to America that we will ignore to our peril.


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To: TAquinas
...and stop demeaning, belittling and debasing my Bible.

I said nothing about the New Testament in my statement, only about the Political disaster of Bush. Now I can only conclude that you have your political party somehow mixed up with your worship.

I suggest to you, read your New Testament. A good starting place for one to learn their faith. But keep in mind, as my favorite Pastor used to say, "that there is one page in every Bible that is not inspired. The one titled 'The New Testament'". Tear it out and you have a complete Bible.

"The New Testament" did not replace "The Old Testament", it completed it. Something, that if you studied just a little you would discover.

61 posted on 08/14/2005 9:41:11 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
I very much enjoyed your post, and will feel no remorse if these terrorists are destroyed. I do believe it will be by the hand of God himself. I do not however, agree that we can blame President Bush. He was not the author of the so called treaties that Israel agreed to with Arafat, that impostor that Bill Clinton had to the White House more than ANY other world leader. I am growing weary of him being blamed for every ill in the universe. Other than that, fantastic post that really intrigued me.
62 posted on 08/14/2005 9:58:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: ladyinred

He was not the author of the Road Map. Saudi Arabia was. He is just the one that enforced it. Don't get me wrong, I like Bush, I just do not like what he is doing.

Imagine the disaster if the other guy got in office! That was pure insanity.

I would not be near so tough on Bush if he had not claimed to be a Christian. A Christian walks to a much higher standard. Bush should know his Bible better, It would have saved us from this disaster. One day he will repent on his knees for the damage he did in arrogance, and I will cry with him, not for him. For I fully expect to see Bush in Heaven as a friend.


63 posted on 08/14/2005 10:13:37 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

I would not be near so tough on Bush if he had not claimed to be a Christian. A Christian walks to a much higher standard.

Yes! We are all as Christians held to a higher standard. However, we all have our own individual covenant with Christ. What I am convicted of may not be what you are convicted of. God puts on us what we can handle. Maybe I can handle different things than you can handle and vice versa. God also has a mission for each of us. A calling. This calling may not be one we agree with or most others may not agree with but it is a mission chosen by God for us. It is for this reason we should not judge others like yourselves. Bush may be doing exactly what God has for him to do. I like to believe that is true.


64 posted on 08/15/2005 7:13:56 AM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: American in Israel; mississippi red-neck; lupie

Interesting post, ping.


65 posted on 08/15/2005 8:56:13 AM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: agrace

Thanks for the ping. I will take time later to read through it. Renind me about it tomorrow. ;)


66 posted on 08/15/2005 10:48:00 AM PDT by lupie
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To: American in Israel

There are prophecies coming about destruction in America and I believe it's in exact proportion to what we're doing to Israel.


67 posted on 08/15/2005 10:50:45 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: American in Israel
I do not usually get into discussions on religion. God knows that he has given far greater wisdom and knowledge to others than he has to me. But, I think your wisdom here is all wet when it comes to all Philistia being long gone when King Ahaz died in 715 BC. The Philistines did not disappear until about the time of the Maccabees, 2nd. century BC. Although they occupied the southwestern plains of Palestine and David did subdue them (2 Sm 5, 17-25), they became practically independent under the separated kingdom and may have been the Philistia referenced in Isaiah 14:28

Both the Assyrians and the Philistines were probably of Semitic origin, descendants of Asshur, one of the sons of Shem (Gn 10:22). Assyria was not destroyed until about 605 BC.
Isaiah 14:29 speaks of a rod which is believed to be an Assyrian oppressor whose identity is uncertain.

I think that Isaiah speaks of these people just as it says.
68 posted on 08/15/2005 4:31:41 PM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: American in Israel
You are correct in that Isaiah 14 deals with the judgment of Israel's neighbors and distant blood kinsmen [sons of Abraham].

The book of Isaiah chapters 13:1-23:18, Jeremiah 46:1-51:64,and Ezekiel 25:1-32:32 all deal with the same group of nations.

There are two groups of nations that God judges for their treatment of Israel throughout history and to the present.

One is the nations of her kinsmen, nations local to the middle east.The other are the gentile nations of the world.

He judges both but at different times. With her kinsmen He judges them in Ezekiel 38&39 in the so called War of Gog and Magog and which involves local players in a relative local area of the globe.

The rest of the nations of the world are dealt with in the battle of Armageddon which has disastrous effects on the whole planet and in which all of the nations world is involved.

In it you have a western confederation of nations led by the Antichrist and the Kings Of the East coming against Israel which is an entirely different set of adversaries from those in Ezekiel.

You will notice in The book of Revelation that speaks of this battle there is no mention of the players in the War of Gog and Magog who have already been dealt with in Ezekiel at an earlier time.

You are right that the U.S. is not a very good friend of Israel. What is surprising to most people if you really study the history you'll find out as a nation we never have been.

We have basically only given lip service as far as the government is concerned.

. We have never come to their aid in any of the four major attacks they have suffered even though each time it looked like they faced certain annihilation. Each time it was the miraculous intervention of God who saved them.

We didn't even vote for them to become a nation in 1948 and we have certainly given their enemies as much money in aid as we have ever given them and for a bonus we gave them Yassar Arafat and the PLO.

Our next generous offer on the immediate horizon is a full blown terrorist state right in the middle of their homeland .

Throughout the Bible God has repeatedly warned Israel about placing their faith in foreign alliances instead of Him. Every time they have they have paid a heavy price for doing so including the one with us.

The reason you don't see much in prophecy about the U.S.is because we fast becoming just becoming part of the crowd of the Commercial and Religious Babylons we find in the Bible.

As Diane Alden would say We're no longer a Constitutional Republic but a Commercial Republic.

69 posted on 08/15/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: tryon1ja
...the Philistines were probably of Semitic origin...

That contradicts everything I've heard. Conventional wisdom is that they were a non-Semitic people from Crete or elsewhere in the Mediterranean.

Do you have a source? (I'm just curious; I don't really have an opinion).

70 posted on 08/15/2005 5:53:56 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: hlmencken3

...the Philistines were probably of Semitic origin.

MY error. The Philistines were of a non-semitic orgin. My apology.


71 posted on 08/15/2005 6:37:50 PM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: mississippi red-neck

Thanks for your post, I printed it out for this weekends Shabbat study, that is when I have free time.

Blessings!


72 posted on 08/15/2005 9:55:08 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: tryon1ja
The area of Gaza, which is the subject of this prophecy as to its destruction was annexed by Kind David. That is over 200 years before Isaiah was born.

I am not as learned as many, but I am not trying to be learned, I am trying to be practical. That is the whole point of this way of looking at prophecy.

The Jews were so learned that they knew everything about the Messiah before He came. They were so learned, that they did not recognize the time when it came because it did not fit their learning.

Let us not do the same here.
73 posted on 08/15/2005 9:59:47 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
He was not the author of the Road Map. Saudi Arabia was. He is just the one that enforced it.

That gives me chills. You are aware that when the final peace treaty is broken the Antichrist does not necessarily broker the covenant, he confirms or enforces it. Ms. Casey's Daughter

74 posted on 08/16/2005 1:20:24 AM PDT by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: American in Israel

I enjoy your posts and you're most welcome. God Bless.


75 posted on 08/16/2005 9:23:33 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: American in Israel; SJackson; yonif; Happy2BMe; Simcha7; Taiwan Bocks; Slings and Arrows; ...
Some commentary on the future from our own American in Israel.

I've been following pretty close the situation in Gush Katif. The next 48 hours is going to be critical.

I also believe, as I have said before, the grievous wound which is even now being inflicted on the House of Israel, because Sharon has bowed to the demands and pressures of a G-d hating world instead of bowing to the Holy One of Israel, is going to put Jewish blood in the waters of the Middle East, inciting the killer sharks of demonic Islam into a frenzy.

It will be the IDF once again called to deal with this mess. May they model the courage and audacity—as they always have—of Joab and Abishai...

"...Be of good courage, and let us behave ourselves valiantly for our people, and for the cities of our God: and let the LORD do that which is good in his sight." [1Ch 19:13]

..and prevail mightily in the months ahead.

President Bush, for good or for evil, is in G-d's Hands. My Pastor was one of many who met with then NSA Condoleeza Rice and challenged the Administration in behalf of Israel. So none can say they weren't advised.










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76 posted on 08/16/2005 7:02:47 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: American in Israel
The Clash of Ideologies You might be interested in this one. The author dropped me a note through my site. An extensive read with a lot of Church history from the early centuries and up to today.

I am planning on writing an extensive review and dropping numerous copies in the mail to my church's Senior Staff and their affiliates.

I am calling it the definitive work of our times, for too many reasons to list here. That being so, it is a manuscript you might find profitable. Most that has been written on Islam in the last four years has been secular in worldview and dealing with the nuts and bolts of Islam.

This author worked within the Islamic world, and as a Christian, deals with it as a threat in great, great detail from a Biblical and spiritual perspective.

77 posted on 08/16/2005 7:19:08 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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78 posted on 08/16/2005 7:22:16 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: hlmencken3; tryon1ja
Do you have a source? (I'm just curious; I don't really have an opinion).

This is some of what the Bible has to say. As far as whether or not they are Semitic, there seems to be two different views.

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia presents the case that they are and Aston's Bible Dictionary presents the case they are not.

It is too much to post here especially the ISBE reference.

Hope this helps.

Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

Gen 10:13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

Gen 10:14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

1Ch 1:11 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

1Ch 1:12 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (of whom came the Philistines,) and Caphthorim.

79 posted on 08/16/2005 8:18:30 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: mississippi red-neck

Aston's = Easton's Bible Dictionary.


80 posted on 08/16/2005 8:21:12 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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