Posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:17 AM PDT by American in Israel
Thought you might like to read this, you inspired me to write it!
Blessings
Let me throw this scenario your way to think about. Do you think it may be possible that Bush knows that once the palestinians have thier complete foothold on Gaza, with the Jews GONE, that it could be more easily targeted without fear of collateral damages now that they know that terrorism pays and works and thier intifada kicks it up a notch or two? We can all agree that Bush and his advisors are NOT idiots. They have been very good at maintaining pleasant surprise for the skeptical. Whether it's Bush supporting Sharons plan, or, Sharon being pressured by the white house to start this plan, this move certainly had to have been well discussed and thought over.
To me, as it seems to you, we can't see why this has to and is happening to the Jewish people of Israel. Like it or not the bible clearly proclaims the Jewish people as "His own". It is also written that in the later days that the Israelites that were scattered among the nations, would be returned to the land that was promised to thier forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. In case you weren't paying attention, Jews have been leaving whereever in the world they had been living, and returning to Israel in droves. The bible also says that Israel would NEVER be divided.
As a Christian, such as Bush professes with no reservations about it, he HAS to know this. Absolutely has to. If he did not, then certainly an advisor somewhere would've clued him in.
From the Bushes standpoint then, knowing this, the question is why?
Obviously, Iran is a growing threat. Probably more of a threat than what we would feel if we got to have access to the same privy information the President gets EVERYDAY. Bush has proven himself to deal with threats and use pre-emption. He also knows he has to help keep the republicans in control of the house and senate next year. There is NO WAY, at this particular point that he can come to the American people, or congress to authorize another premptive action against Iran, on the heels of Iraq, not to mention that are troops are spread thin enough as is. He would be laughed out of the U.N. The only way would be to allow the Israelis to do it, then back them up. The world will definately NOT be able to hide from the fact that the Jews are the victims, and NOT the palestinians as they claim they are. The world could not deny that Israel has taken the painful step of the pullout yet it did not bring peace, only more violence. All this would give all the justification Israel needs.
At this point it may SEEM that I'm mixing 2 seperate issues. One being a threat from Iran, secondly, the Israelis internal palestinian threat. Please follow along while I connect the two.
The whole of the muslim world has a well known and unhidden agenda, the complete elimination of the Jews. Just this last week there have been articles everywhere, including FR, that the newly elected leader of Iran has pledged his support to the palestinians during and after the pullout. Freshly crowned King Abdullah has also said basically the same thing.
Iran has been threatening to restart its uranium enrichment program. Enriched uranium has but one purpose. WEAPONS. And again, they continue to proudly say that they wish the destruction of Israel. They already have the missiles capable of delivering. History has proven that the first time Iran built a nuclear plant, they flattened it. They're ready to do it again. They, as does Bush, have a problem with the premption part again.
We know Iran has been, and is, a sponser of terrorists. We also know that Iran has been sending in insurgents to kill our troops in Iraq.
Is it not conceivable that once the pullout is completed, and the terrorists kick it up that notch or two, with help coming in from Iran, that we step in to back up Israel and take care of Iran once and for all? It wouldn't hurt my feelings none, it IS a growing menace that needs to be dealt with before it's too late and they hit first. They're not called "Mad Mullahs" for nothing.
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One can hope and pray.
I know that God is determined to be Israel's ONLY
DELIVERER; HIGH TOWER; DEFENSE, AVENGER; PROTECTOR; ALL SUFFICIENCY.
I know that when we fail to defend Israel, we will pay dearly for failing to do so. Very dearly.
Those things I know of a certainty.
So you want me to think that Bush, by destroying Israel so he can target the Arabs better without killing a Jew, is being dumb like a fox?
That is a bit of a stretch don't you think? The Bible says that in the last days there will be a test for the nations, that Jerusalem will become a stumbling block. Those nations that burden, or try to lift and move that block, will be cut asunder themselves. The Nation at the head of the charge to carve up Jerusalem to hand half to the Arab League is the United States. This is not wisdom by Bush, it is Biblical Suicide.
With smart weapons, we can easily pick which window of the building we wish to drop the bomb into from 15 miles away. Why abandon Gaza to the Arab League to "limit collateral damage" that we do not cause in the first place? Frankly I think your indulging in massive wishful thinking from a sinking ship. God says you judge a tree by its fruits, He does not say, if the fruit is sour, perhaps the intention is sweet.
Now you say as a Christian Bush, but you do not take into account that Bush is making decisions not on Christian Doctrine, but clearly is making decisions on the New World Order Doctrine of secular Humanistic rule of the world.
Does he stop Abortion? No.
Did he save Terri Schalvago from murder by starvation? No.
Did he protect the Constitutional limits on Government or negate them with the Patriot act? He negated them.
Have not the IRS rules for Non Profit Religious groups become a complete restriction of Missionary work under Bush's reign? It is illegal for a Church to give money to an individual now under the new rules for Corporations in 501c's. Missionary's are now ILLEGAL by tax LAW.
Is Bush siding with Israel and God or with the Globalists? Globalists.
Did Bush move the Embassy to Jerusalem as he promised the American people, or does he block it as he promised the Saudi Kings? He blocks it.
Does Bush heed the warnings of the Bible against all Nations that cut asunder Israel, or does he cut away as the Globalists decide? He cuts away.
Is Bush a Christian? He talks the talk, but does not walk the walk politically.
Is Bush a Globalist? He talks the talk, walks the walk, and has allowed the destruction of both the Constitution of the United States, property rights on which democracy is founded. The New World Order dream, has been put in place by a man who Claims to be a Christian, but delivers nothing Christian.
The fruit stinks, and after 6 years it has never ripened into something even remotely Christian. But, we have a fine swat team for a police force, We are at war in two fronts and have nobody guarding our borders and Russia and China are gearing up for invasion with over 5 practice runs at full scale war with America in Bush's years alone.
My friend, it is the Globalist dream, America cut asunder, and the Jews under the thumb of the Sand Nazi's. Bush is not your friend, he is your judgment. While he may think he is a fine Christian, he is a product of replacement theology Churches that do not know their Bibles, and he is a tool, at best, of the New World Order.
I suggest you read Isaiah 18, a prophecy that is part of this prophecy of destruction in the Middle East. For just like in Zeph 2 (which my write up follows this thread) the destruction does not stop with the Philistines, but continues on to Moab and beyond. The prophecy does not stop until Isaiah 20 where a new prophecy is outlined with a dating separation. Isaiah 18 is an odd ball, it is the only one that does not identify the nation that is cut asunder. It just says it is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia. It is a land that is farther than known borders were in that day. It is America I think.
God made a simple promise to Abraham, who curses him, God curses, who blesses him, God blesses. And if you look in history, what ever a people do to the Jews is returned upon them 10 fold.
Germany was slaughtered, the people burned in the fires of Dresden. Its capitol was converted into a prison camp for years and years. Brittany, the Empire that the sun never sets on, divided the land of Israel, and now is so cut asunder that on cloudy days in London, the Empire of Brittany is an empire that the sun never shines on.
If bush is dumb like a fox, he has called the wrath of God on America, and will cause it to be cut asunder.
That is mighty dumb, even for a fox.
Don't get me wrong, I like Bush as a brother, but his policy's in Israel will bring destruction on America far worse than any President in our History. No other president was arrogant enough to challenge God Himself. God is not impressed by nuclear weapons, or democracy.
God, is simply put, God. Bush is simply put, a man, and not a very smart man when it comes to the Bible. You can stir up a hornets next taking on Islam, but you are opening a can of Whupass taking on the God of Israel. Even if you claim to be his follower.
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I've been hearing more prophecies and claims of prophecies fulfilled from a myriad of Judea-Christian-Koranic and even other "semi-religious sects" with names that are harder to pin down..
I thought we were pretty much marked to be "torn asunder" as you put it, when Revelation was fulfilled and the grey cloud tore down the tower of Babel in an hour.
Oh, how the merchants and allies lamented and wailed for he loss of wealth that occured in that hour, but they stood a long way away.
Or have you forgotten 9-11 and how our "allies" kept their distance afterward?
CERTAINLY.
Thanks.
I don't think anyone has prophecy all figured out. But it is exceedingly clear that great chunks of it are being fulfilled quite frequently in our era.
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wow, this is a vanity. i think prophecies are being fulfilled all the time, and even over and over. I mean, if God is sovereign, well, what would one expect?
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PERHAPS you'd consider making the first 3 words of your titles different in each new thread.
When they are minimized, it's much easier to tell them apart along the bottom of my screen.
Blessings,
1: The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2: Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
Oh darn, I did not think of that. I meant them as search terms as I doubt many can read all this in one day, even if I wrote it in one.
I will do so after this one, it is the finish of the series of the old testament.
Next one is the Book of Revelations...
No sweat. Just a preference.
Search terms do work in any sequence, though, as I recall.
THANKS TONS FOR ALL THE EFFORT.
Be safe . . . IN HIM.
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