The American Dollar Bill

[RedwineisJesus]

I'm sure that many of you have now read "Angels & Demons". It answered for me (a Canadian) a question I'd always had about the American dollar bill ... "what in hell is that pyramid with the big eyeball on it on the back of the bill ???"

It's a Masonic symbol.

But the questions STILL remain:

1/Why do Americans have a Masonic symbol on their currency? Do most Americans even have a clue what the Masons stand for?

2/ How do Americans reconcile themselves with the two contradictory messages on the back of the bill: Novus Ordo Seclorum (New Secular Order) and In God We Trust?

Anyone with answers out there?

[Conservative til I die]

Gee, so you're saying that all those Founding Fathers who were Freemasons were godless atheists? And I thought this country was supposedly founded as a Christian nation.

It was also founded as a viciously anti-Catholic country, and to its core in many ways, it still is.

[Conservative til I die]

And after 229 years of American ideas on "freedom" and "liberty" implemented for their own sake only, we see their fruits: licentiousness, vulgarity, moral chaos and anarchy.

[Conservative til I die]

The culture could be accurately described as Christian perhaps years ago but we are definitely not a Christian nation now. The seeds for rampant secularism ultimately lie in the founders documents.

Well said. Makes the idea of "monarchism" more enticing every day.

[muir_redwoods]

"2/ How do Americans reconcile themselves with the two contradictory messages on the back of the bill: Novus Ordo Seclorum (New Secular Order) and In God We Trust?"

I don't see a conflict here. A new secular order was founded by men who trust in G-d. How could it be any plainer or consistent?

[Conservative til I die]

Hi here are a list of Free Masons who helped to build America....:)

Doesn't make it right just because some good famous men were members.

BTW, if you consider James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, or Gerald Ford great men who built America, you're outta your mind.

[stormyseas]

lol...I was just giving those who cared a list....:) And to show they are not just Americans...:)

[stormyseas]

BTW here is that link....http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html#m

BTW, if you consider James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, or Gerald Ford great men who built America, you're outta your mind.
(YOU SAID^)


Hi here are a list of Free Masons who helped to build America....:)

I do not seem to see the word great in there at all...;)

[RedwineisJesus]

Arguss- I love hearing someone from Little Poop Indiana ( population 10,000 including Lower Little Poop) thinking that everyone from outside of the US is a backwoodsman. It's rather endearing to the rest of the world...sort of a Chevy Chase movie plot. Or Deliverance.

And why did you buy the damned novel only to throw it in the trash? Doesn't your town have book reviews in it's newspaper? A newspaper?

Is Black Label Little Poop's idea of real booze?

And the point IS that I thought that the Masons WERE like the Elks & the Rotarians & the Shriners ...but I'm now finding out that they are not.

But you knew that all along...I'm confident of that...you Yanks are always so incredibly erudite...you're known the world over for that.

Mea culpa.

[onedoug]

If the Masons of the Lodge adjacent to my house are any indication of their "Order", their main concern should be the state of geriatric medicine.

[Thinkin' Gal]

"what in hell is that pyramid with the big eyeball on it on the back of the bill ???"

Oh, it's just the all-seeing eye of Horus, like at the top of the Washington Monument. Nothing to "see" here just move along...

[newsgatherer]

As many as fourteen United States Presidents have been Masons, including George Washington, ...In fact, all but a few of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, as well as the majority of the framers of the United States Constitution, were Freemasons.

I would have to see your source for this.

[newsgatherer]

A canadian calling us in the US ignorant? Now that is the pot calling the kettle black.

[Titanites]

Do the Canucks still have the queen's portrait on their currency?

[redgolum]

Coming in late to the thread. Many uber trad Lutherans describe the US as a "Masonic Republic, with Masonry as the state religion".

Don't know if I agree, but it has always got me thinking.

[murphE]

If the Masons of the Lodge adjacent to my house are any indication of their "Order", their main concern should be the state of geriatric medicine.

I wouldn't want one next to my house.
76 year olds can be dangerous

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

Most of the little I remember comes from watching the old John Ankerberg show. He did a series on the Masons and it was not flattering. But John also didn't like Catholics and there was a debate with Fr. Mitch Pacwa appearing, who held his own.

How much of a true conspiracy there might be who knows, so much is secretive. And then many masons may have joined more for the social and political aspect, and not religious.
Still, for the core Masonic believer, they are apparently directly opposed to the Catholic church, even in this ecumenical world.

Could there be "Masons-in-name only", sort of cousins to the "Catholics-in-name only"?

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

I remember a guy I used to work with joined the masons, he talked a little about, just superficially. He came in one day with a bruise on his head, IIRC, and this was about the time I was watching the John Ankerberg piece, where they also described a blow or injury to the head as part of initiation.

[Bella_Bru]

Masons are sworn enemies of the Church, and put their gods of free thinking and their god of what they perceive as science above the God of all creation. That's all anyone needs to know about them.

The U.S. is not under the thumb of "The Church".

[Bella_Bru]

It's very powerful...with quite a specific agenda...and we don't know much about it. Touch scary...no?

No. There are many organizations that are powerful and you will nbever learn much about them. Walk into a Pepsico Executive Meeting. They wqon't iunvite you in and begin dighing company secrets. As a Mormon if you can go hang out at one of their temples during a sealing ceremony to see what happens. Walk into the Pentagon and ask to sit in on a meeting. Hell, not even your local frat will tell you their secrets.

Not everything is a need to know for everyone.

[Bella_Bru]

Heh...that should read:

They won't invite you in and begin dishing company secrets.