(LIVE THREAD) The Papal Conclave, Interregnum, Cardinals, Conclave Facts, Prayer and other links

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[Smartass]

Thanks for the PING...
Good job of posting and keeping us informed.

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[Salvation]

I think it is difficult for the priests because they are used to saying "our servant, Pope John Paul"

Our priest has been saying, "our servant, John our bishop" He just gets caught up in that habit.

You are totally correct. They can mention the Pope's name however when prayers for the dead are said during the Mass.

[Salvation]

**They cannot fathom the spiritual aspects at all.**

Yes, with 90% of the journalists in the U. S. not attending chruch of any kind!!!!! -- that was exactly the point made by our priest this morning.

Be careful that you are listening to the Shepherd's voice (Christ's voice) and not the voice of some biased reporter. He even used Ted Turner's quote about Catholics and Christians being weaklings and losers! It was a great homily!

What are we allowing our conscience to absorb? Or even hear? Do we sit down with our kids after watching a movie and talk about the Commandments that were broken in that movie?

[Salvation]

I appreciate your feedback -- continue to bump the thread during the conclave. I'm even thinking about asking the Admin Moderator to make it a LIVE THREAD. What do you think?

[tiredoflaundry]

Yes, good idea. This way there will be 1 central thread for folks to post to. I'm sure a gazillion threads on the Conclave is going to pop up. Ask the Moderator to make 1 "official" thread.

[tiredoflaundry]

[A CA Guy]

It will work itself out.

From what I've discussed with others, most believe this will be an older person who will serve a short term.

I still keep my prayer simple: God PLEASE give us the Pope You feel we need!

[Gerish]

May they submit totally to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

AMEN - AMEN - AMEN AND AMEN!!!

I have a little seed of doubt, but it is small and I am praying and hoping the Holy Spirit will guide the conclave.

[Ciexyz]

Prayers offered up for the Papal conclave.

[Ciexyz]

Cool links on this site.

[Salvation]

Monday Morning Mass in Rome -- THE FAITHFUL ARE INVITED TO MASS FOR START OF CONCLAVE

THE FAITHFUL ARE INVITED TO MASS FOR START OF CONCLAVE
 

VATICAN CITY,  (Zenit.org).- The Holy See invited all the faithful present in Rome to attend the Mass for the opening of the conclave.

The Mass will be celebrated in St. Peter's Basilica at 10 a.m. next Monday.

A note from the Office for the Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff today stated that the Mass "for the election of the Roman Pontiff" will be presided over by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, who also presided at John Paul II's funeral Mass.

"In order to show communion in prayer on the part of the entire Church at such an important moment, cardinal non-electors, bishops, priests, deacons, and members of institutes of consecrated life and societies of apostolic life are also earnestly invited to participate in the celebration, as are the lay faithful of all God's people present in Rome," added the note.

"The entire Church, spiritually united with Mary Mother of Jesus, and called to persevere unanimously in prayer following the example of the first Christian community, lifts humble and insistent prayers to the Lord, that He may illuminate the minds of the electors and bring them to agreement, in order to obtain a prompt and unanimous election of the new Pope," affirmed the note of the office, headed by Archbishop Piero Marini.

At 4.30 p.m. on Monday, the entry into conclave and the oath for the election of the new pope will take place, in keeping with the norms laid down by the "Ordo Rituum Conclavis."

The cardinal electors, preceded by a cross and the Book of the Gospels, and accompanied by the singing of the Litany of the Saints, will enter in procession from the Hall of Blessings to the Sistine Chapel where, after singing the "Veni Creator," they will pronounce the prescribed oath.

In addition to the cardinal electors, others participating in the procession include the secretary of the conclave, the master of liturgical celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff, the secretary of the cardinal dean, the ecclesiastic who will preach a meditation, the masters of ceremonies, the dean, and the Cappella Musicale Pontificia.

 

OFFICIAL OATH OF CONCLAVE ASSISTANTS

VATICAN CITY, APR 13, 2005 (VIS) - Today, the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff made it known that in the Hall of Blessings at 5 p.m. on Friday, April 15 officials and assistants of the conclave will be called to take their oath.

All those involved in the forthcoming conclave - both clergy and laity, as approved by the cardinal camerlengo and by the three cardinal assistants, and in keeping with the norms of para. 48 of the Apostolic Constitution 'Universi Domini gregis' - will have to swear and sign the prescribed oath. In accordance with para. 46 of Universi Dominici gregis, the following people must be in the Sala Regia at 4.30 p.m. on that day:

- The Secretary of the College of Cardinals.

- The master of the Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff.

- The masters of pontifical ceremonies.

- The religious who supervise the pontifical sacristy.

- The ecclesiastic chosen by the cardinal dean to help him in his duties.

- The religious charged with hearing confessions in the various languages.

- Doctors and nurses.

- The personnel for preparing meals and cleaning.

- Technical service personnel (Universi Dominici gregis, paras. 5 and 51).

- Personnel responsible for transporting the cardinal electors from the 'Domus Sanctae Marthae' to the Apostolic Palace.

- Elevator attendants at the Apostolic Palace.

- Priests admitted as assistants to some of the Cardinals.

After having been instructed on the meaning of the oath, they will have to pronounce and personally sign the prescribed formula before Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo, camerlengo of Holy Roman Church, and in the presence of two masters of pontifical ceremonies (Universi Dominici gregis, paras. 48).

[padfoot_lover]

This is a great thread, and having one central LIVE thread throughout the conclave is a wonderful idea. Thank you so much for your hard work!

Prayers going up to the Holy Spirit for the Conclave....

[Salvation]

**Cool links on this site.**

Any you would like posted?

[Salvation]

Could this be converted to a live thread by your adding the words (LIVE THREAD) on the beginning of it. Or does it have to be on the news forum?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[lightman]

May they submit totally to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

"Come, Holy Ghost, God and Lord!"
by Martin Luther, 1483-1546

1. Come, Holy Ghost, God and Lord!
Be all Thy graces now out poured
On each believer's mind and heart;
Thy fervent love to them impart.
Lord, by the brightness of Thy light,
Thou in the faith dost men unite
Of every land and every tongue;
This to Thy praise, O Lord, our God, be sung.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

2. Thou holy Light, Guide Divine,
Oh, cause the Word of Life to shine!
Teach us to know our God aright
And call Him Father with delight.
From every error keep us free;
Let none but Christ our Master be
That we in living faith abide,
In Him, our Lord, with all our might confide.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

3. Thou holy Fire, Comfort true,
Grant us the will Thy work to do
And in Thy service to abide;
Let trials turn us not aside.
Lord, by Thy power prepare each heart
And to our weakness strength impart
That bravely here we may contend,
Through life and death to Thee, our Lord, ascend.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

Hymn 224
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Acts 2: 4
Author: Martin Luther
Translated by: composite
Titled: "Komm, Heiliger Geist, Herre Gott"
Tune: "Komm, Heiliger Geist, Herre Gott"
http://www.lutheran-hymnal.com/online/tlh-224.mid
15th-century melody

[Salvation]

Thanks PL.

[Salvation]

Must agree with your prayer all the way. However, we still need to be discerning on our part.

[Salvation]

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[Salvation]

Thanks! That was fast!

[Sidebar Moderator]

Any time :-)