Posted on 01/20/2005 1:01:34 PM PST by missyme
The Scenario The war will start in 2007. The antichrist will stand in the Jewish Temple of Jerusalem and declare that he is God. The Bible calls this the 'abomination of desolation'. Shortly after this the Arab nations will unite against Israel. Egypt will lead Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Jordan - every nation with a border with Israel - against it. Russia and its allies will join on the side of the Arabs. During the fight the US and Russia will use nuclear weapons against each other. The war will leave 2 billion dead.
When will it happen? This is a quote from Mark 13:14-28:
But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. And let him who is on the housetop not go down, or enter in, to get anything out of his house; and let him who is in the field not turn back to get his cloak. But woe to those who are with child and to those who nurse babes in those days! But pray that it may not happen in the winter. For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of creation which God created, until now, and never shall. And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect whom He chose, He shortened the days. And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ; or, lo, [he is] there; believe [him] not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.
But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. The fig tree is Israel. This is because in Jeremiah's prophecies he used 'Figs' as a symbol of the children of Israel. If figs are the children, Israel must be the father, the fig tree.
'When her branch Is yet tender' means that Israel will still be a new state (it was founded in May 1948). 'Putteth forth leaves' could mean when Israel recaptured all of Jerusalem in June 1967. 'Summer is nigh' means that the end of the world is near.
So soon after Israel takes Jerusalem the end of the world will occur. It says 'this generation shall not pass till all these tings be fulfilled'.
A generation in the Bible is 40 years, so the end of the world will be 40 years after 1967: 2007.
This is a key passage - Ezekiel 39: 1-6: Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that [is] with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and [to] the beasts of the field to be devoured. Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken [it], saith the Lord GOD. And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.
It says all but a 'sixth part' of the invading army will be destroyed. Israel's army could not do this, but Israel is known to have nuclear weapons so these could be used against an invading force
Conclusion So that is the evidence. In 2007 the Battle of Armageddon will take place, there will be nuclear war and Jesus will return. However, some of these interpretations of the text are fairly loose, so if in doubt read through them again and make your own mind up. Whether you believe in this or not is largely a matter of faith, and either way, we will know in 6 years.
Your research and awareness seem to be quite flawed.
Dispensationalism was evident in the early church:
http://www.tyndale.edu/dirn/articles/early1.html
***But my study of C.S. Lewis taught me that we should live our lives as Christians without the "carrot/stick" motivators ***
Lewis was, after all, just a man.
Here's a "carrot"...
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel's voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words."
Specifically...
"...Therefore encourage one another with these words."
When you over-spiritualize Christianity (or over-psychologize it) you decouple it from one of it's great sources of strength - eschatology.
God put all that stuff in there for a reason, you know!
But now it's 2007?
I'll never get a dime from Social Security! I've been ripped off!
YOU: "Bite me troll."
Qx: "Christ spoke of one of HIS comings as a thief in the night. That's quite different from the whole end times Era! A whole era coming like that is not even very logical."
You: "Especially since the 2nd Coming has nothing to do with End Times *cough*"
Qx: Says you. I'm not any more impressed with your eschatology than I am your discernment and psychological assessment skills.
Troll? What a laugh.
But, hey, I understand, when one's logic proves deficient, character assault is a handy pressure valve.
Who says the 2nd coming has nothing to do with the end times? Depends on all kinds of things--definitions, among them.
Sheesh.
You're not trolling. Right.
I went out of my way to have a civil discourse with a woman who was easy flame bait. Then you show up with your cute little insults. Why don't you spew some more four syllable words to prove to the rest of us how smart you are - cause we *really* want you to show us, especially now that you read like a high-schooler who just discovered a Thesarus.
But no, you're not trolling. Okay..
Maybe I'll get nothing from Social Security, but I'm making out pretty good on that 30 year mortgage I just signed!
Also, we have had the technology for quite some time now to enable "they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations" to see the (temporarily) dead bodies of the "two witnesses" (Rev. 11:3-12), via satellite.
Since the Lord comes back at the LAST trumpet, and there are a total of SEVEN trumpets in the Book of Revelations.....
All of the events that happen from the sounding of all seven trumpets must occur before the Lord returns.
Read the seven trumpets in the Book of Revelations. Once these things take place, the Lord will come back.....
and "the kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever." (Revelation 11:15)
You disguised, hid your purported intent to have
"a civil discourse"
with my friend and sister missyme
exceedingly well. I had no clue civility was on your horizon at all.
I thought the insults started with you, Fred.
BTW,
I'm NOT a DIMRAT;
I'm NOT a DUmmie;
I'm NOT a TROLL
in any of the classical FR meanings. Perhaps you need to consult the FR dictionary.
BTW, if you tie into my sister again--or any other sister or brother hereon--especially regarding such a topic--then you will likely be able to count on me arriving to highlight your obnoxiousness.
If this were true, I would have already been RAPTURED and I am still here. Waiting.
"I had no clue civility was on your horizon at all."
Agreed. And keep telling me you are not a troll. I *so* want to believe...
Bookmarking for big laugh in 2007!
From your first post in this thread, as I quickly scanned them . . .
"a bunch of crazy fundies"
Sounds like a pretty uncivil wording to me, Fred.
Put down the Thesarus and look up "context".
Sheesh. Your credibility is diminishing with each post.
Have you long had trouble construing implications differently from others?
BTW, I think I MAY have used a thesaurus once--some months ago--used one
ONCE
in the last--10+ years.
Certainly in a long time.
pingy
"I think I MAY have used a thesaurus once--some months ago--used one ONCE in the last--10+ years. Certainly in a long time."
Thats really great. Now, are we done talking about you?
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