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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi

The Neverending Story
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
And don't lay the blame on this thread the gospel has been given to Steven several times.

And by him several times.

1,861 posted on 04/05/2004 4:09:27 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: RnMomof7
This thread presented the venue for Steve to have conversations with other apostate people and have them proselytize openly and via mail ..people he may never had met had it not been for this thread.

And the other threads here don't? Look around Mom the place is full of apostate people that proselytize right out in the open let alone in freep mail, and if I remember right the calvinists were walking hand in hand with MOST of them over the Passion movie, I think I remember you not being for the movie, but your swarm buddies were in lock step with the works based religion crowd and praising Mel on what a splendid job he did, talk about double standard for the NES and the calvinists threads, do as I say not as I do.

BigMack

1,862 posted on 04/05/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: SoothingDave
To put it another way, Steven, by trying to eschew the pagan and find the pure God has discovered that even our Jesus is a pagan accretion. And ironically, a relationship with this pagan god led him to the True God.

Um Dave, Jesus IS the True God. You cannot reject A and believe A at the same time.

Is this where Vatican II has brought the RCC? When a pretty faithful RC can see no real big deal about a guy leaving Christ, and actually defend the person's decision.

This is what happens when you say that the Jewish people are in a saving Covenant and have no need of Jesus.

1,863 posted on 04/05/2004 4:32:16 PM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: RnMomof7
This thread is full of lost folks

So I'm to go to another thread and preach the gospel to all the "saved" folks?

BigMack

1,864 posted on 04/05/2004 4:34:42 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
This thread is full of lost folks

So I'm to go to another thread and preach the gospel to all the "saved" folks?

((((crickets))))

BigMack

1,865 posted on 04/05/2004 4:49:29 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Thats exactily what has happened here, the gospel has been preached thousands of times here, its been rejected.

Have we talked about cars, motercycles, movies, family, yes and you have too. I have read most every calvinist thread here, you guys talk about other stuff too don't tell me you don't, your way off base here Mom and your calvinist pride is showing.

((((crickets))))

BigMack

1,866 posted on 04/05/2004 5:01:07 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
This thread presented the venue for Steve to have conversations with other apostate people and have them proselytize openly and via mail ..people he may never had met had it not been for this thread.

And the other threads here don't? Look around Mom the place is full of apostate people that proselytize right out in the open let alone in freep mail, and if I remember right the calvinists were walking hand in hand with MOST of them over the Passion movie, I think I remember you not being for the movie, but your swarm buddies were in lock step with the works based religion crowd and praising Mel on what a splendid job he did, talk about double standard for the NES and the calvinists threads, do as I say not as I do.

((((crickets))))

BigMack

1,867 posted on 04/05/2004 5:03:15 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
Slander and run?

BigMack
1,868 posted on 04/05/2004 5:13:38 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: ksen
Is this where Vatican II has brought the RCC? When a pretty faithful RC can see no real big deal about a guy leaving Christ, and actually defend the person's decision.

Hey. Don't paint the whole Church with that broad brush. I for one am pretty confused by those posts.

1,869 posted on 04/05/2004 5:14:49 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
And the other threads here don't? Look around Mom the place is full of apostate people that proselytize right out in the open let alone in freep mail, and if I remember right the calvinists were walking hand in hand with MOST of them over the Passion movie, I think I remember you not being for the movie, but your swarm buddies were in lock step with the works based religion crowd and praising Mel on what a splendid job he did, talk about double standard for the NES and the calvinists threads, do as I say not as I do

How one felt about the passion is not a matter of salvation.That is a straw man .

If you live by the sword you die by the sword. The NES Christians are believers in the doctrinal stand of free will salvation . By your own standard the failure belongs to the NET Christians who sought fellowship with the unsaved and thereby made it seem to the lost , that it was perfectly fine. Those very friendships caused one to walk away from Christ.

If one is saved by human efforts then it follows others are lost because of the sufficient efforts of others.

Other than occasional pillow fights over doctrine that has been debated over and over, there is no serious attempt to counter the false doctrines taught here by non Christians .

By my observation the lost out number the saved about 3 to 1 (possibly more) . A perfect place to find new spiritual victims

All the "friendly discussions" will need explanation some day

Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

1,870 posted on 04/05/2004 5:14:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Thats exactily what has happened here, the gospel has been preached thousands of times here, its been rejected.

But the problem is that you do not really believe what that scripture says .. unless it works to your advantage. You believe the man has the ability to decide if it is foolishness. So that scripture does not help you out at all.

The blame then has to fall squarely on the ones that failed to press the gospel sufficiently , that failed to love them enough or to impress them with how happy the saved are in their walk .

1,871 posted on 04/05/2004 5:19:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Uh. Obviously not. :-)

I would guess all those "check your mail " posts from a Jewish poster did not sway you at all.</ scarasm>

You will have an eternity to rethink the decision to deny Christ ,but it will be too late .

Prepare for warm weather

1,872 posted on 04/05/2004 5:24:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: RnMomof7
You will have an eternity to rethink the decision to deny Christ ,but it will be too late .

Prepare for warm weather

I've been waiting for this. I knew you wouldn't disappoint.

1,873 posted on 04/05/2004 5:45:03 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: RnMomof7
How one felt about the passion is not a matter of salvation.That is a straw man .

No straw man, its a fact and it shows that your sticking up for the ecumenical apostate loving calvinists that fell all over them selfs defending and supporting with their words and money the apostate movie the "Passion" I'm not fooled by your BS about your brothers in swarm, remember you were the one that bought into their false teaching NOT me. I forget the name of the guy that was on the calvinist threads but he had the FR calvinists pegged as the apostate loving bunch that they are, all show and no go.

The NES Christians are believers in the doctrinal stand of free will salvation . The NES Christians are believers in the doctrinal stand of free will salvation .

There are no believers of the false calvinist doctrine on the NES, but you and your passionett calvinest swarm are free to post here, and don't talk about being run off, thats history, your here, post the gospel and quit your bitching.

BigMack

1,874 posted on 04/05/2004 5:54:08 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: IMRight
The question is to what extent your faith is in your own faith. And how much you can rely on it now? Can you say you "never really believed" what you were preaching?

The other question that Dave keeps hinting at is what you feel about those non-believers who believe in lots of OTHER "false" things and what way God uses those beliefs.

What do you care? My answers are not credible to you.

1,875 posted on 04/05/2004 5:58:04 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: All
Who is on right now? Important.
1,876 posted on 04/05/2004 5:59:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: RnMomof7
But the problem is that you do not really believe what that scripture says .. unless it works to your advantage. You believe the man has the ability to decide if it is foolishness. So that scripture does not help you out at all.

The problem is I didn't buy into the false doctrine of the calvinists like you did, I have read nearly every calvinists thread looking to see if they might be wright, and I have found that they are wrong and you have become the fool to have bought into the false teaching of calvin, you really need to come out of that false movement.

The blame then has to fall squarely on the ones that failed to press the gospel sufficiently , that failed to love them enough or to impress them with how happy the saved are in their walk .

You had just as much an chance as ANYONE on here to press the gospel sufficiently, you really are starting to look like a fool, for your own creditability you should stop.

BigMack

1,877 posted on 04/05/2004 6:03:17 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
This thread is full of lost folks

So I'm to go to another thread and preach the gospel to all the "saved" folks?

((((crickets))))

BigMack

1,878 posted on 04/05/2004 6:05:09 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
By my observation the lost out number the saved about 3 to 1 (possibly more) . A perfect place to find new spiritual victims

Why do you pretend this is something new? Your observation had me burning without burning up 2 years ago. You're priceless.

1,879 posted on 04/05/2004 6:05:33 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: OLD REGGIE
Pay attention now, it is not you who determines whether you are saved or not, it is the Lord.

Welcome to the Dark Side(tm) Reggie. Would you like to be added to the GRPL now?

1,880 posted on 04/05/2004 6:30:26 PM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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