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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi
Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
So, since your argument is foolish on the very first detail, there is no need to examin it further.
Hyperbole, hyperbole, hyperbole. Foolishness, foolishness, foolishness. What's a busy housewife to do?
Your deceitful dude.
Hey that Buster Rhymes.
It's just sad that you can claim that the entire Jewish history has been falsified, and no one else here bats an eyelash. Instead, they lash out at me for questioning your outlandish claims.
SD
I will. You're a liar and a spinner.
It's just sad that you can claim that the entire Jewish history has been falsified, and no one else here bats an eyelash. Instead, they lash out at me for questioning your outlandish claims.
By the time you got done spinning my remarks they had nothing at all to do with the topic. You just flat out framed it the way you felt like it. Sorry you feel so threatened. There are those that will gladly put up with your crap. I won't.
SD
"We may at first wonder why the attempt to prove the reality of the Divinity of Christ made it necessary to falsify the whole of Jewish history, as the Gentile Church undoubtedly did,
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By the time you got done spinning my remarks they had nothing at all to do with the topic.
So you didn't post number 1410? It was a figment of my imgaination?
Or are you now backing down from this ridiculous claim?
Do you ever wonder what effect it has had upon you, that you can so blithely accept such nonsense without even noticing it? If your entire belief system is predicated upon such comments, doesn't that make you wonder?
SD
SD
Which claim? The one I made or the one you framed it into?
Do you ever wonder what effect it has had upon you, that you can so blithely accept such nonsense without even noticing it?
I've often wondered the same of your belief system.
If your entire belief system is predicated upon such comments, doesn't that make you wonder?
I always wonder. Which is why I'm not stuck with constraints of a magesterium. Its wonderful.
That's true.
To which Dave's question was: how have Gentile Christians falsified the entire history of the Jewish people.
Thank you for he color commentary. Go back and read his comment. If it were only that simple.
How is this spinning? He just wanted to know where you were coming from.
He know where I'm coming from. So do you do. And it must bother you so that you thought you must meddle. Welcome to the bright side.
What "claim" did you make? How is it different from the words you post? How am I to know which words you will stand behind and which you will not.
I have not even begun to look at the nonsense you post so proudly. I just pulled out the very first piece of nonsense. Do you really want me to dissect it, or will you just disavow the entire thing now and save us the trouble?
SD
Go back and read.
How is it different from the words you post?
You mean how is it different from the words you posted describing the words I posted?
How am I to know which words you will stand behind and which you will not.
I stand behind the ones I posted. Not the ones you said I posted. Its all really simple.
I have not even begun to look at the nonsense you post so proudly.
That's ok. Would probably have just caused you to lie more.
I just pulled out the very first piece of nonsense.Where? I must have missed it. I didn't see any nonsense.
Do you really want me to dissect it, or will you just disavow the entire thing now and save us the trouble?
Go for it. Spin away. Be careful tho. God is watching.
Cry away.
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(JohnnyM) I have to agree with Dave. For some reason people are splitting hairs over this question that Dave had rather than answer it. Then he gets called a liar and jumped upon.
I must have missed something. Do you have a count of the number of people arguing this question with Dave, the number who have called him a liar, and the number who have jumped on him?
Post 1410:
This deliberate and connived denial of Jewish history is called displacement (or replacement) theology, and the Church is still entirely dependent on it today, with no choice but to deny Jewish history - from Jews being the true and spiritual children of Avraham, to the history of Yisrael and Yehudah (as opposed to "Palestine"), and even the Holocaust.
You stand behind this hateful nonsense? That Christians today have "no choice" than to deny the Holocaust?
For the record, there is no compelling reason why any Christian would have to deny that Abraham was the spiritual (and actual) father of the Jewish people, that they were given a land to live in and that they served a special purpose in the history of salvation.
I've never heard of the crap you post here that is claimed to be what Christians believe, must believe, are compelled to believe.
"The only alternative was to claim the whole of it for themselves and to antedate the rejection of the Jews and the emergence of the Church to the beginning of revealed history, by emphasizing the position of [Avraham] as the father of many nations, of whom only one, and that themselves, was chosen
Another example. Totally made up. Not Christian belief at all.
SD
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