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I hope that this helps for those who have been concerned about the movie based upon what they have been seeing and hearing. GO SEE THIS MOVIE. By the way, I stand by every comment I made in a previous post about the larger political and cultural implications and ramifications of this film. Now just as the world is polarized pre and post 9/11 it will be polarized pre and post Passion. You may read that post HERE.
1 posted on 02/21/2004 3:50:43 PM PST by jonboy
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Is this movie Catholic? Yes and no. Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine.

Thank you for your review. Please study the Catholic Dogmas and beliefs. I recommend Scott Hahn's book "Rome Sweet Home" as it is written from an originally anti-Catholic, anti-Marian perspective. Catholic's revere Mary with a higher respect than any other human being. She is entitled to that. She is not divine, nor has any Catholic I've ever met claimed divinity for her. Her Son is divine, part of the Triune God. She is just His sinless mother.

350 posted on 02/22/2004 7:18:54 AM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Ping list, please email me.)
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Great Review. I am anxious and scared to see the movie this Weds. Have my ticket and my sin. Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. God Bless You and your ministry.

Pray for W and The Passion of Christ

356 posted on 02/22/2004 7:40:21 AM PST by bray (Vote Kerry, 10,000 Al Queda can't be wrong!)
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Thanks for the review. I, too, have trepidations about the violence. I already tremble and weep at the thought, never mind actually seeing it.
357 posted on 02/22/2004 7:46:38 AM PST by P.O.E. (Hurry, Springtime!)
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Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine.

Thanks for the review...but for the gazillionth time...CATHOLICS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MARY IS DIVINE!!!!!

359 posted on 02/22/2004 8:09:51 AM PST by pgkdan
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I read another review recently that talked about a couple of the liberties taken with the Biblical story. The most serious inaccuracy that I heard was that the earthquake that occurred after Jesus's death caused tremendous structural damage to the temple and killed some priests but that the movie didn't show the veil being ripped in two. To me, the ripping of the veil is one of the most significant incidents of the crucifixion. Admittedly, I don't really practice the faith anymore on a personal level, but I'm still interested in the integrity of what is presented. Can you comment about this scene?

The same review said that the Jewish leaders in the movie went into the Roman buildings. The Bible says that they wouldn't go into the Roman buildings because they were purifying themselves and that Pilate had to come out to them. Was this departure from the scripture also taken.

Finally, the review suggested that Caiphus was responsible for the sign that said "This is the king of the Jews" written above Jesus's head. The Bible said that Pilate had written that statement and that the Jewish leaders didn't like it. While I see less significance to this point, it's still a real departure from the story. What do you remember?

WFTR
Bill

360 posted on 02/22/2004 8:16:20 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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361 posted on 02/22/2004 8:17:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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I haven't seem the movie yet, though it was advertised on TV but I have a question.

Why did they rate it "R"?

That's mean!

366 posted on 02/22/2004 8:36:00 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless America!)
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425 posted on 02/22/2004 8:01:33 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Thanks for your review. I'm sorry the thread turned into a discussion on Catholic doctrine, instead of what you intended - a review of the movie.
449 posted on 02/23/2004 8:02:42 AM PST by Fury
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As a minister I think you will appreciate the words of the Archbishop of Atlanta.

Dear friends, the lesson of The Passion is terrible and beautiful to behold, but the truth of accepting and making this lesson a part of our own lives, is to gain deeper faith in the ultimate outcome of Christ's purpose in coming among mankind His victory over death our death "...to give his life as a ransom for many." May this magnificent film, a gift from God, help us to learn what we need to know, and may our Lenten and Easter celebrations this year, bring us an abundance of contrition, repentance, and new-found hope in the power of Jesus Christ to save us, and give us eternal life.

Sincerely yours,

Most Reverend John F. Donoghue
Archbishop of Atlanta

455 posted on 02/23/2004 9:47:02 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Your review was heartfelt, passionate, and sincere. I look forward to seeing the movie with eagerness and dread. I think every Christian who views this saga will do so with a feeling of soaring gratitude and overwhelming guilt; I can't imagine its being otherwise. Thank you for taking the time to write your compelling critique.
477 posted on 02/24/2004 5:36:51 AM PST by ladyjanes
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That is the point I feel is that we all including those yet to be born, put him there.

All of us have to go through the refiners fire as our test here on earth.

The Lord knew that and none of us alone would beable to over come our sins.

Jesus the Christ was perfect and showed us the way and paid the price for our rescue.

I am so thankful at last including me will have a chance or the knowlege and depth to know what the redeemer did to save and make it possible for us to pass through these portals to return some day!

I am sorry that this secular element continues to create fear in our Jewish bothern. This secular thead has been ruleing the roost for century. I really think they fear that Judah will recognized their Messiah, and the Ciaphas gang hold will be broken!

ZECHARIAH
http://scriptures.lds.org/zech/summary

Zech. 13
The Jews shall gain forgiveness at the Second Coming—They shall ask Jesus: What are these wounds in thine hands?—The remnant, tried and refined, shall be his people.

Zech. 14
At his Second Coming the Lord shall fight for Israel—His feet shall stand upon the Mount of Olives—He shall be King over all the earth—Plagues shall destroy the wicked.

I long for and will rejoice when Judah (Jew) and Israel(Christian) will be one!

When all our eyes are open than the John Kerry's, Clinton's and other sociopath, secular humansit will no longer have the power they once had!
479 posted on 02/24/2004 7:13:09 AM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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"Is this movie Catholic? Yes and no. Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine."

Excellent review, jonboy. I only want to clarify, as a Roman Catholic, that Mary is, in no way, "divine" to Catholics. Blessed? Yes. Worthy of honor? Yes. But not divine. Jesus Christ, alone, can claim that. I haven't read all the comments, so I'm sorry if this has already been hashed over (as I expect it probably has, lol!)

480 posted on 02/24/2004 3:10:47 PM PST by sneakers
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