CA: Recall Debate Live Thread

September 24, 2003

[lainie]

Got popcorn?

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TV:

• Fox News Channel
• KCOP-13 (UPN) (follows the Ricki Lake show, perhaps appropriately, we'll see)
• KCET-28 (PBS)
• KABC-7

LIVE AUDIO STREAMS OF THE DEBATE:

• KABC 790 AM Los Angeles
• KFI 640 AM Los Angeles
• KOGO 600 AM San Diego

[EternalVigilance]

Appreciated your commentary here tonight.

You proved to be a dispassionate observer.

[lainie]

If you think tonight was good, read this.

[BlueNgold]

Davis got 90 mins ALLLL to himself within the last week ... televised by all the same CBA members on TV and radio here in CA.

[PhiKapMom]

Your comment about Huffington being hysterical was dead on -- that lady was going nuts. I thought the Green guy was going to have a heart attack at one time with his bluster. Cruz kept interrupting which I thought was rude.

Definitely a win-win for Republicans and lose-lose-lose-lose for the liberals including the moderator who was horrible!

[Partisan Hack]

I'm sure I'll improve my spanish skills under governor Bustamante!

Go Tom!

[You Dirty Rats]

"Stop lying about my record."

I was sick all during 1996. Bob Dole is a great American, and did a stellar job holding the fort in the Senate in 1993-4. But I never believed he could win, and we were stuck with four more years of Bubba.

[autoresponder]

You are right

Anti-Bush

Pro-Taxes

Arianna paid $700 in CA income taxes in 2 years

[Scott from the Left Coast]

Perhaps it was but it is a dangerous ploy: Remember what attracts McClintock voters can also drive away the Independents. And attracting the McClintock voters with the red meat of Texas will get the numerous and powerful California unions going nuts being time. Ambrose is right -- that is dangerous because it could really energize a RAT vote from the unions (Texas is a Right-to-Work state, which the unions go ape-ballistic over).

It was dangerous ploy, playing right into the wheelhouse of the most powerful RAT constituency. Many rank and file may have melded over to Arnold from the RAT line...but if they can be "propogandized" by their union bosses that Arnold wants to bring Texas labor laws over here, they'll get back in line in a hurry. I know that wasn't the subject...but IT WILL be the way union bosses portray it to their rank-and-file.

Arnold was playing with dynamite there...he's new to politics and that could have been a freshman error.

[Missouri]

McClintock was unbelievable.

I'd vote for a guy like McClintock in a heartbeat. To bad he's being wasted out there in California. I do understand that due to the fact the the state is so far to the left that Arnold would have a better chance of winning. Tough choice.

then the State is truly populated with idiots.

I think you know the answer.

[knews_hound]

My glib observations...

Arnold was amazing; I didn’t think he had it in him to hit back at that shrill witch as well as he did. He had the best one liners, a smooth (for Arnold) delivery and a commanding presence compared to the rest. His answers were gauged to please as many people as possible, not specify in detail what goes where, not the right forum for that. Hit this Debate out of the park

knews hounds prediction; Arnold rises to near plurality in the votes and the Election is almost over.

Tom was good, but tended to do the AlGore thing with "I proposed this legislation" or "as you know I led the opposition to that proposal" and tended to get bogged down in details. He is doing a white paper, not a dissertation. That being said, his common sense answers on immigration sounded more grounded in common sense than the others.

knews hounds prediction; Tom drops 3 points in polls, stays in race. Commits political suicide in the process.

Bustamonte was long winded, a smooth, practiced, politician that reassured only the illegal immigrants in the crowd. His syrup smooth delivery and nonthreatening manner spell doom for him in the election.

knews hounds prediction; stays in office until dumped in last election by Dem Machinery. Pensioned off to obscure Dem dominated panel or commission.

Huffington was amazing, not quite aware that she was not drinking coffee with her fellow members of the local "cell" she went off on the Bush administration and not Davis. The one and only time I saw the Moderator specifically give time to respond to a personal attack was from that harpy and Arnold ate her alive. She played the class warfare angle well for her side, and almost seemed to make some sort of sense until you thought about it. In the end, she seemed to be just a minor distraction, every circus needs a clown.

knews hounds prediction; she takes her 1% showing in the general election as a mandate to switch sides completely to the Dems, goes on talking head shows to deride huge Bush conspiracy in Calif election.

Camejo was the comic relief. His message of Corporate criminality must have been a real eye opener to every Contractor, Supplier or Vendor to the state who would have to think long and hard before doing business with an administration that was literally gunning for them. His semi-Alliance with the Shrew was revealing in itself and he was unyielding in his application of more nanny state socialism doomed him.

knews hounds prediction; has the Howard Dean vote sewn up. Polls his usual 3% and is from here on referred to as "former Gubernatorial Candidate, Peter Camejo" which gives him additional dignity in the eyes of the public to spew more Final Solutions to the States problems.

I call em as I see em.

Cheers,


knews hound

[lainie]

echoing your thanks. This thread was fun! Good luck to you.

[PhiKapMom]

I am a Reds fan, but to see the Cubbies in the World Series would be GREAT! No franchise deserves it more!

[FourPeas]

Well, speaking as a Californian, first, the state IS populated with idiots.

I stand corrected. Voters in California are not stoopid, the state is populated with idiots. Please forgive me Shelly.

[NittanyLion]

I'm almost always pleasantly reminded that despite the vitriol and infighting, FR posters usually report the truth faithfully and honestly. Pretty good folks.

[WOSG]

"Mara loves McClintock, how blantant is this divide and conquer."

Naw, just a commentator stating the obvious.

Tom was the most professional, specific and clear.

If not for the celebrity factor, only Cruz and Tom would be considered real candidates.

[CurlyBill]

Bustamonte's performance was adequate. Nothing more, but That's all he needs to be in order to get the Dim base behind him.

Bustamonte clearly has the sizeable illegal alien vote locked up...

[tpaine]

Yep, Reagan was my first republican vote after Nixon stole the party from Goldwater.

Also my last.

[Reagan Man]

Freepers have a habit of rising to the occasion. Well, sometimes. ;^)

[EternalVigilance]

Most are.