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1 posted on 07/29/2003 11:27:12 AM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 07/29/2003 11:28:13 AM PDT by Clive
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3 posted on 07/29/2003 11:28:17 AM PDT by Clive
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Catholic Church respresentin'! Time for some excommunications!
4 posted on 07/29/2003 11:31:05 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: Clive
homosexuals are already disregarding this. They have their own petition drives to push homosexual marriage.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/954645/posts

It is good to see the church taking a pro-marriage stand. (odd when the catholic church gets praise for doing its job.)
5 posted on 07/29/2003 11:32:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Clive
The Vatican is calling directly on Catholic politicians around the world to be true to their faith and ...

But that's the real kicker, isn't it? For the past few decades, the Church has tolerated almost any and all moral dissent from the left with little or no comment, and almost never real action.

Want to be a rabid pro-abortion politician? Far be it from your bishop to say anything about it. Want to get divorce after divorce and still receive all the sacraments without comment? No problem. Want to make statements like all religions are valid paths to the same God? You won't hear a peep from your bishop saying otherwise.

So the real question is how many truly Catholic MP's even exist, in the sense of truly believing and following the teachings of the Church? I would guess it's a small fraction of the number who call themselves Catholic.

The modern Church culture of moral permissiveness, and failure to condemn sin, is now snowballing. And the Church finds itself without the moral authority necessary to put up much of a fight due to neglect of this duty for so long.

6 posted on 07/29/2003 11:37:53 AM PDT by Snuffington
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The liberal agenda is one monolithic package. Can't pick and choose those items you like from it like you can your Roman Catholisism.
7 posted on 07/29/2003 11:39:23 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Clive
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage

Christians to Pope: Stop pedophile priests
11 posted on 07/29/2003 11:59:00 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Clive
So what was the faith of the other 47 percent of Canadians? Was it divided up between Protestants of different persuasions and atheists...and some eskimo religions?
12 posted on 07/29/2003 12:01:48 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Clive
DA PAPA STEPS IN! YES!

GIVE IT TO THEM UNFILTERED J.P. II!

I'm no Catholic, but I like to see the Holy Father step in and put the smack down on these so-called "Catholic" cretins. Word up to Teddy K. and his so-called "Catholic" ilk.

J.P. II has put you all on notice. No excuses, now.

Reminds me of that Sam Kinison (Geez, I miss that guy. We need Sam now more than ever. I can only imagine his take on everything that's happened since September 11) routine with the Pope talking to the Gays:

"Suck the ----, lose the Kingdom. Romans I. Look, I didn't write the book, I just enforce it. C'mon, you got ---- on your breath, your stinkin' up the place, get outta here!"

17 posted on 07/29/2003 12:30:09 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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Clemenza to Pope: Stop Gay Priests!

Actually, I'm happy to see the Pontiff taking a strong stance on this, particularly since the average Euro/American Cardinal is wishywashy at best, an enabler at worst, of the Gaystapo agenda. Only the Africans and Asians seem to take a strong stand on this issue.

22 posted on 07/29/2003 1:17:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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Jean Chretien and Martin Cauchon could care less what Rome thinks.
25 posted on 07/29/2003 6:21:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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But a spokesman for Martin Cauchon, the Justice Minister one of many Catholic MPs, said that Minister will base his vote on equality rights, not religion.

Ah yes, the old abortion copout, coming soon to a politician near you!
31 posted on 07/30/2003 6:26:14 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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I will add this thread to my collection:

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"

Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic

On Catholic Politicians and Faith

Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines

Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician

William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians

Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism

THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"

Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens

U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church

PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights

38 posted on 07/30/2003 5:01:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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They are losing influence because they do absolutely NOTHING when they are defied. If they would start excommunicating these people then people would sit up and take notice when they say something. Right now, they can ignore the church and get away with it, so why not ignore them?
39 posted on 07/30/2003 5:25:55 PM PDT by McGavin999
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>> Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage <<

Where's Michael Hypocrite Moron to DEMAND they do what the Pope says? The blowhard egomanic was on TV a few monthes ago proclaiming how important it is to follow the wishes of the Pope when JPII says something it's a "sin".

40 posted on 07/31/2003 10:26:32 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term....without parole.)
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"Charter of Rights"

Marriage is not a "Right," it is a construct of the State. The State can recognize any type of marriage it wants, based on the formula it recognizes as being the most conducive for successful procreation and nuturing of children.

Those who call marriage a "Right" are sadly mistaken! Human beings have the Right to engage in sexual activity with the consenting adult partner of their choice; they DO NOT have a Right to have their sexual relationship recognized by the State, blessed by the Churches, or accepted by society! Recognition, blessing, or acceptance are based upon the prevailing norms of the day...PERIOD!

41 posted on 07/31/2003 10:41:48 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas
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Sorry, Clive. I wasn't yelling at you...just yelling in general at the stupidity of those who claim to be experts in the law and the nature of Rights.
42 posted on 07/31/2003 10:42:49 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas
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BUMP
44 posted on 08/01/2003 1:52:01 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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