[McGavin999]

They are losing influence because they do absolutely NOTHING when they are defied. If they would start excommunicating these people then people would sit up and take notice when they say something. Right now, they can ignore the church and get away with it, so why not ignore them?

[saradippity]

I seem to recall something Paul said in one of his letters. He said that those who take the Body and Blood unworthily bring shame,or excommunication,or chastisement upon themselves.

It seems to me (and I wish I could find the passage) that if we would hear that in the sermons all over the country and the bishops and priests would expand on that,we could at least give the offenders and the observers some food for thought.

I believe that Truth has a compelling effect on the soul and the mind of man but the world is so full of make work projects many people do not have the time to think,and if they do,they are thinking about things that are of no matter or substance.