Posted on 07/21/2003 7:04:58 PM PDT by Destro
The Sunday Times, July 21, 2003
Web sting links Hamza to terror camps
An Insight Investigation
A SOPHISTICATED internet sting has provided fresh evidence linking Abu Hamza, the British radical Islamic cleric, to terror camps, claim anti-terrorist police.
Hamza is said to have been so convinced by a British undercover investigator posing as an extremist website operator that he allegedly sent him several secret propaganda films designed to attract new recruits. The videos were used, say investigators, to convince British Muslims to undergo jihad training at camps in Afghanistan and Bosnia.
The tapes and e-mails were obtained by Glen Jenvey, a 38-year-old freelance counterintelligence investigator from Wiltshire, over a period of more than a year. As the evidence flowed in, Jenvey forwarded it to the FBI, which is now building a case to extradite Hamza to America. (go to his website www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
Last week Scotland Yard confirmed that anti-terrorist branch officers had taken a statement from Jenvey and sent a copy to the FBI.
The evidence is being marshalled by US government prosecutors in New York, where Hamza is part of a grand jury investigation into a plot to provide weapons training to American mujaheddin on a cattle ranch in Bly, Oregon.
If the grand jury charges Hamza with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, which carries a 25-year jail sentence, sources close to the case say they will press for his extradition to America.
According to statements given to the anti-terrorist branch in March, Jenvey set up an internet site called islamic-news.co.uk in 2002 using the fictitious name Pervez Khan. He published news items on the site from Kashmiri extremist groups and other hardline Islamic propaganda.
Once established, he sent the material to Hamza’s website supportersofshariah.org, which is now shut down. He was so pleased with this he decided to put a link to my site from his site. That was his first big mistake, said Jenvey last week.
As a consequence, Jenvey was able to monitor everyone who logged on to Hamza’s website, a facility he passed on to the FBI so that it could also monitor Hamza’s activities.
He then decided to take the operation a step further. By now I was getting close to Hamza. He trusted me, said Jenvey. We had been e-mailing each other a lot and I had been passing the e-mails to the FBI. We also started to speak on the phone.
I started to suggest I could help him recruit people for his jihad. He became very excited by this. He would burble prayers down the phone in an almost demented fashion. I thought he must be a bit mad.
He said he would send me some material to help me win supporters and prepare them for jihad. He said he had some special tapes but that they were somewhere secret and he did not keep them in the mosque. He said they would be sent to me.
Less than a month later a package arrived at Jenvey’s home. Inside were 20 audio tapes. A second package arrived a week later with six two-hour video tapes. Jenvey was shocked by what he saw. One tape starts by showing a training camp in Bosnia and scenes of urban combat training. Jihad anthems play in the background and a voice in English says: Make ready to continue to terrorise the enemy of Allah.
The tape later cuts to Hamza speaking to a private audience in London about so-called suicide bombers. He appears to use the Koran to justify the tactic. It is to inflict suffering, it is in the time, in the methodology of suicide, it is there and at its peak, says Hamza.
In another tape, three British volunteers are interviewed in Bosnia about their experiences. All three urge Muslims at home to undergo jihad training and criticise those who are content to merely donate money or lend moral support.
The first volunteer identifies himself as being from north London. He says he is a third-year medical student at Birmingham University. Hiding his face behind a black scarf, he holds an assault rifle aloft as he speaks to the camera and talks about the satisfaction of seeing hundreds of dead bodies in Bosnia.
Another tape opens with scenes of what appears to be a massacre of Serbian civilians in a village in Bosnia. The camera roves around the scene, focusing on corpses that litter the ground. Some of the bodies are being taken away on stretchers by distraught relatives. A jihad anthem plays in the background.
Another tape, allegedly provided by Hamza, is a documentary in Arabic about the building of the World Trade Center in New York and the Petronas Towers in Malaysia. It was made prior to September 11.
Video Clip Abu Hamza Tools Pt.1.wmv-Click to view Description: Could these be the planning videos al-Qaeda used in the months before attack on World Trade Centre linking Abu Hamza outspoken Muslim Cleric to attacks on America!
Jenvey continued to monitor Hamza’s website. In April this year he noticed a film showing Russian soldiers being blown up by Chechnyan terrorists.
The rest off the film was available through a link from Hamza’s website. It showed training with live ammunition at a camp in Afghanistan and appears to be an exercise for would-be assassins. Some of the target images projected on to a screen are of western politicians. Many of the faces are obscured, but Bill Clinton, the former US president, is clearly recognisable.
Shortly after Jenvey reported this Hamza’s website was shut down by the internet service provider.
One tape given to Jenvey has already made an impact. It shows Hamza at a meeting sharing a platform with the US terrorist suspect James Ujaama.
Ujaama designed Hamza’s internet site under the name Abu Samaya, but denied knowing Hamza when first arrested by the FBI. However, his defence crumbled when the tape was produced. He is now the key witness against Hamza in the grand jury investigation. (Jenvey also told me he provided tapes as evidence for the defense to Slobodan Milosevic's team)
According to court papers, Hamza provided letters of introduction or sponsorship for people to enter Al-Qaeda camps. The documents say he sent two emissaries to help Ujaama set up the Bly training camp.
Despite his activities, Hamza is still at liberty in Britain, although his assets have been frozen and his disability benefits stopped. The Home Office is trying to strip him of his British citizenship in order to deport him. The cleric preached at the North London mosque in Finsbury Park before it was closed down following a police raid in January.
A senior legal source involved in Hamza’s case said: Either they will strip him of his citizenship and then detain him under new immigration laws so he rots in prison or they will extradite him to America.
A spokesman for Hamza denied he played any role in terror. Supportersofshariah.org had many affiliate websites to whom we would send videos, he said. Abu Hamza’s tapes were on sale openly at Finsbury Park mosque. The grand jury investigation in America is a joke and a kangaroo court. They have put pressure on Ujaama to say these things.
CNN found such tapes in Afghanistan and STILL they would not show the world what was done to the Serbs by Clinton's Muslim allies.
CNN wont show Qaida promotional video from Bosnia showing a severed human head rolling through grass
You and your website and your comrades are heroic and I salute you.
ASSIST NEWS SERVICE: "BRITISH UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATOR MAY FLEE THE UNITED KINGDOM Claims Large Number of Death Threats from al Qa'ida Sympathizers" by Jeremy Reynalds,Special Correspondent for ASSIST News Service (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "ALBUQUERQUE,N.M. (ANS) -- A British undercover investigator who posed as the operator of a radical Islamic web site may leave the United Kingdom due to what he says is the large number of death threats he has received from al Qa'ida sympathizers. Glen Jenvey, 38, whose work was profiled recently in England's "Sunday Times" (www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-750685,00.html), but whose story was first told on the ASSIST News Service in November 2002 (www.assistnews.net/Stories/s02110035.htm), told this reporter that he feels unsafe in his native country and may ask India or America for political refugee status. According to the "Sunday Times," Jenvey was so convincing in his role as a radical website operator that Hamza allegedly sent him a number of propagandist al Qa'ida recruitment videos. Jenvey forwarded the videos to a number of law enforcement agencies that included the FBI. The evidence against Hamza is being collected by US government prosecutors in New York, where Hamza is part of a grand jury investigation into a plot to provide weapons training to American mujaheddin on a cattle ranch in Bly, Oregon. If the grand jury charges Hamza with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, which carries a 25-year jail sentence, sources close to the case told the "Sunday Times" they will press for Hamza's extradition to America.") (July 21, 2003) (Read More...)
A few years ago when I was in Budapest and there was one, lone Serbian soldier on trial in the Hague, the court had to let him go when all the people he was accused of murdering walked out of the forest, onto a dirt road and back to their village. Not a word of this in the American press.
Clinton's presidency impacted the entire world in ways that will keep resounding for decades.
I hope you mean extradited. The last thing we need is this guy on the loose in another country.
The Muslim "charity" scams are getting choked off, but as long as we in the USA, Canada, and the UK give these guys free rein to preach hate and incite murder under the guise of free speech and religious freedom while playing the race card every time they get challenged, there will continue to be converts to their cause.
BUMP!
But the Brits have been incredibly lax in shutting down the radicals who have made England their primary destinstion because they can collect welfare immediately and if the government arrests them, they are given whatever amount of money it takes to defend themselves in court. You'll notice no planes were have been flown into Big Ben or any Canadian landmarks. That's because the religion of peace declared action against England, Canada and France off limits.
Radicals Islam loves the welfare state.
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Video Clip Burying the dead.wmv - Click to see the video Description: Terrorists Attack on Serbs and mass graves being dug. Bodies of Serbs being put in grave on film by Muslims.
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Video Clip Abu Hamza Tools Pt.3.wmv - Click to view video Description: Could these be the planning videos al-Qaeda used in the months before attack on World Trade Centre linking Abu Hamza outspoken Muslim Cleric to attacks on America!