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Web sting links British radical Islamic cleric to terror camps
The Sunday Times ^ | The Sunday Times, July 21, 2003 | An Insight Investigation

Posted on 07/21/2003 7:04:58 PM PDT by Destro

The Sunday Times, July 21, 2003

Web sting links Hamza to terror camps

An Insight Investigation

A SOPHISTICATED internet sting has provided fresh evidence linking Abu Hamza, the British radical Islamic cleric, to terror camps, claim anti-terrorist police.

Hamza is said to have been so convinced by a British undercover investigator posing as an extremist website operator that he allegedly sent him several secret propaganda films designed to attract new recruits. The videos were used, say investigators, to convince British Muslims to undergo jihad training at camps in Afghanistan and Bosnia.

The tapes and e-mails were obtained by Glen Jenvey, a 38-year-old freelance counterintelligence investigator from Wiltshire, over a period of more than a year. As the evidence flowed in, Jenvey forwarded it to the FBI, which is now building a case to extradite Hamza to America. (go to his website www.johnathangaltfilms.com)

Last week Scotland Yard confirmed that anti-terrorist branch officers had taken a statement from Jenvey and sent a copy to the FBI.

The evidence is being marshalled by US government prosecutors in New York, where Hamza is part of a grand jury investigation into a plot to provide weapons training to American mujaheddin on a cattle ranch in Bly, Oregon.

If the grand jury charges Hamza with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, which carries a 25-year jail sentence, sources close to the case say they will press for his extradition to America.

According to statements given to the anti-terrorist branch in March, Jenvey set up an internet site called islamic-news.co.uk in 2002 using the fictitious name Pervez Khan. He published news items on the site from Kashmiri extremist groups and other hardline Islamic propaganda.

Once established, he sent the material to Hamza’s website supportersofshariah.org, which is now shut down. He was so pleased with this he decided to put a link to my site from his site. That was his first big mistake, said Jenvey last week.

As a consequence, Jenvey was able to monitor everyone who logged on to Hamza’s website, a facility he passed on to the FBI so that it could also monitor Hamza’s activities.

He then decided to take the operation a step further. By now I was getting close to Hamza. He trusted me, said Jenvey. We had been e-mailing each other a lot and I had been passing the e-mails to the FBI. We also started to speak on the phone.

I started to suggest I could help him recruit people for his jihad. He became very excited by this. He would burble prayers down the phone in an almost demented fashion. I thought he must be a bit mad.

He said he would send me some material to help me win supporters and prepare them for jihad. He said he had some special tapes but that they were somewhere secret and he did not keep them in the mosque. He said they would be sent to me.

Less than a month later a package arrived at Jenvey’s home. Inside were 20 audio tapes. A second package arrived a week later with six two-hour video tapes. Jenvey was shocked by what he saw. One tape starts by showing a training camp in Bosnia and scenes of urban combat training. Jihad anthems play in the background and a voice in English says: Make ready to continue to terrorise the enemy of Allah.

The tape later cuts to Hamza speaking to a private audience in London about so-called suicide bombers. He appears to use the Koran to justify the tactic. It is to inflict suffering, it is in the time, in the methodology of suicide, it is there and at its peak, says Hamza.

In another tape, three British volunteers are interviewed in Bosnia about their experiences. All three urge Muslims at home to undergo jihad training and criticise those who are content to merely donate money or lend moral support.

The first volunteer identifies himself as being from north London. He says he is a third-year medical student at Birmingham University. Hiding his face behind a black scarf, he holds an assault rifle aloft as he speaks to the camera and talks about the satisfaction of seeing hundreds of dead bodies in Bosnia.

From the sting and on the web site-click to download: Video Clip pgcc4.WMV Description: British armed Muslims on film admit to killing hundreds of Serbs on film. We never knew the UN gave them permission to kill in other countries?! The full tape is too bloody to air as it shows mass graves! And Terrorists Attack on Serbs and mass graves being dug and bodies of Serbs being put in it on film by Muslims.

Another tape opens with scenes of what appears to be a massacre of Serbian civilians in a village in Bosnia. The camera roves around the scene, focusing on corpses that litter the ground. Some of the bodies are being taken away on stretchers by distraught relatives. A jihad anthem plays in the background.

Video Clips Serbs killed by Muslims.wmv - Click to view Description: SERBIAN'S 9/11 British armed Muslims on tape killing hundreds of Serbs on film.

Video Clip Serbs are pigs said al'qaeda.wmv-Click to view Description: Terrorists Attack on Serbs, al-Qaeda said: What has become trenches of the Serbs are now Graves of these Pigs

Video Clip Burying the dead.wmv - Click to see the video Description: Terrorists Attack on Serbs and mass graves being dug. Bodies of Serbs being put in grave on film by Muslims.

Another tape, allegedly provided by Hamza, is a documentary in Arabic about the building of the World Trade Center in New York and the Petronas Towers in Malaysia. It was made prior to September 11.

Video Clip Abu Hamza Tools Pt.1.wmv-Click to view Description: Could these be the planning videos al-Qaeda used in the months before attack on World Trade Centre linking Abu Hamza outspoken Muslim Cleric to attacks on America!

Video Clip Abu Hamza Tools Pt.2.wmv - Click to view video Description: Could these be the planning videos al-Qaeda used in the months before attack on World Trade Centre linking Abu Hamza outspoken Muslim Cleric to attacks on America!

Video Clip Abu Hamza Tools Pt.3.wmv - Click to view video Description: Could these be the planning videos al-Qaeda used in the months before attack on World Trade Centre linking Abu Hamza outspoken Muslim Cleric to attacks on America!

Jenvey continued to monitor Hamza’s website. In April this year he noticed a film showing Russian soldiers being blown up by Chechnyan terrorists.

The rest off the film was available through a link from Hamza’s website. It showed training with live ammunition at a camp in Afghanistan and appears to be an exercise for would-be assassins. Some of the target images projected on to a screen are of western politicians. Many of the faces are obscured, but Bill Clinton, the former US president, is clearly recognisable.

Shortly after Jenvey reported this Hamza’s website was shut down by the internet service provider.

One tape given to Jenvey has already made an impact. It shows Hamza at a meeting sharing a platform with the US terrorist suspect James Ujaama.

Ujaama designed Hamza’s internet site under the name Abu Samaya, but denied knowing Hamza when first arrested by the FBI. However, his defence crumbled when the tape was produced. He is now the key witness against Hamza in the grand jury investigation. (Jenvey also told me he provided tapes as evidence for the defense to Slobodan Milosevic's team)

According to court papers, Hamza provided letters of introduction or sponsorship for people to enter Al-Qaeda camps. The documents say he sent two emissaries to help Ujaama set up the Bly training camp.

Despite his activities, Hamza is still at liberty in Britain, although his assets have been frozen and his disability benefits stopped. The Home Office is trying to strip him of his British citizenship in order to deport him. The cleric preached at the North London mosque in Finsbury Park before it was closed down following a police raid in January.

A senior legal source involved in Hamza’s case said: Either they will strip him of his citizenship and then detain him under new immigration laws so he rots in prison or they will extradite him to America.

A spokesman for Hamza denied he played any role in terror. Supportersofshariah.org had many affiliate websites to whom we would send videos, he said. Abu Hamza’s tapes were on sale openly at Finsbury Park mosque. The grand jury investigation in America is a joke and a kangaroo court. They have put pressure on Ujaama to say these things.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; campaignfinance; islamicviolence; jihadinamerica; talibanlist; trainingcamps
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1 posted on 07/21/2003 7:04:59 PM PDT by Destro
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johnathanrgalt-you rock!
2 posted on 07/21/2003 7:08:15 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Isn't Galt a Freeper?
3 posted on 07/21/2003 7:08:52 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Yes!
4 posted on 07/21/2003 7:09:19 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I want to know why Hamza is not sitting in jail. What are the Brits waiting for?
5 posted on 07/21/2003 7:20:50 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Destro
Religion of peace, my eye!
6 posted on 07/21/2003 7:23:57 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: dennisw; knighthawk; W.O.T.; Asher; Great Dane; MadIvan; Hamiltonian; eleni

HAMZA ping !!!

al qaeda exposed in Britain.
7 posted on 07/21/2003 7:28:52 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Destro
Please htvisit the heroic website www.johnathangaltfilms.com and support them.
8 posted on 07/21/2003 7:34:55 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Catspaw
I want to know why Hamza is not sitting in jail. What are the Brits waiting for?
My thoughts exactly. However they may be glad to extradite him to US & wash their hands of him as opposed to endless taxpayer funded legal wranglings and appeals to EU Human Rights court etc which will be the next step.

I hope the investigator has a bodyguard...

BTW, Where's MadIvan these days, anyone know ?

9 posted on 07/21/2003 7:41:01 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Destro
God willing, Captain Hook will soon walk the plank.

Hopefully exposing knowledge of these training camps will prompt folks to begin taking a closer look at what is going on in the Balkans these days.
10 posted on 07/21/2003 7:48:36 PM PDT by Angelus Errare
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To: Angelus Errare
What did Clinton and Blair know and when did they know it?
11 posted on 07/21/2003 8:07:26 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The damage is already done as far as the Balkans goes, it'll take at least 20 years to undo the damage the Saudis and their allies did there. I'm still optimistic about Chechnya, largely because Maskhadov is hardly the great symbol of armed struggle that say, Arafat, is in the Palestinian Authority.

For now though, I'll content myself with Abu Hamza being removed from society, preferably permanently. Here a little, there a little, till the whole damned jihadi internationale comes a crumblin' down ...
12 posted on 07/21/2003 8:11:02 PM PDT by Angelus Errare
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To: Destro
BTTT! Yes, a true hero!
13 posted on 07/21/2003 9:05:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Catspaw
The last I heard he was just going to be deported, but pulling all the usual legal tricks to postpone any action.
14 posted on 07/21/2003 9:19:19 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: Angelus Errare
>>>>>>>Hopefully exposing knowledge of these training camps will prompt folks to begin taking a closer look at what is going on in the Balkans these days<<<<<

The latest raid by Italian special forces fetched some interesting fish. They are now enjoying Cuban sun in Gitmo owing to U.S. Government kindness.

We could start wagering how long it will take until Mr. Bond is recalled to Washington for consultations.

15 posted on 07/21/2003 10:20:42 PM PDT by DTA
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Thanks for all the kind words! We've got a follow up story. Seems we have p*ssed-off some Islamists (again): British undercover investigator Claims Large Number of Death Threats from al Qa'ida Sympathizers


Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

16 posted on 07/22/2003 8:37:31 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt (---- Fight Islamist CyberTerror at: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/index.php ----)
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If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
17 posted on 07/22/2003 8:54:38 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Great Job, and stay safe while you continue to document these mass murdering Islamofacists.
18 posted on 07/22/2003 9:04:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: JohnathanRGalt; Destro
BIG bump!
19 posted on 07/22/2003 9:50:07 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Destro
Obligatory Abu Hamza graphics: YO HO HO and a Bottle of Rum!


20 posted on 07/22/2003 9:58:59 AM PDT by Alouette
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