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Crossfire: Carville Tries To Shout Away Online Primary (And Lamestream Press Ignores It)
CNN.Com (Crossfire) ^ | June 27, 2003

Posted on 06/27/2003 4:15:17 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CARLSON: ...The true voice of the Democratic Party has spoken, uttering four words that speak volumes: Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich. They're the big winners of the online primary conducted this week by moveon.org.

The former Vermont governor crushed the rest of the field with about 44 percent of the vote. Congressman Kucinich was distant second, with 24 percent. With the exception of John Kerry's 16 percent, none of the other candidates even made it out of single digits, and low ones at that.


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; denniskucinich; howarddean; jamescarville; moveonorg; tuckercarlson
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To: bert
If Carville is doing commercials he must be on the outs financially.

I saw this commercial - to me it seemed kind of weird. The boy is wearing shorts and socks, and they focus in on his socks and bare legs - like this is some kind of selling point. I think it was for a phone company. Kind of like marketing to gays. Just weird. Uh, I didn't buy the product.

21 posted on 06/27/2003 5:03:23 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Sandy Day O'Connor (Sandy D) - Affirmative Action hire (it's true).)
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To: John Lenin
The rat's substitutes should be easy to spot during the campaign. They'll have a couple of people that aren't running that are constantly in the press. But they will only talk about non-controversial issues. Issues where they can take a position that is strong in the polls.
22 posted on 06/27/2003 5:06:58 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: searchandrecovery
Mary Matalin quit her White House job. Now the vile one is the sole breadwinner.
23 posted on 06/27/2003 5:11:03 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: PJ-Comix
Funny, but I came to a different conclusion about the 'significance' of that online poll. I read the article on Drudge and went to check it out for myself on moveon.org. I hadn't been aware of that organization previously,but from what I can tell on their website is that they're dedicated to advancing 'moderate and progressive reforms' (a.k.a., liberal agenda). so, it didn't surprise me that the polling public on an ultra liberal website likes ultra liberal Howard Dean the best. I fail to see the 'significance' in that--just predictable poll results. I mean, we could do a poll here on FR about who we want to see run for Prez in 2004, and I wouldn't be surprised, nor would i find it significant, if the majority chose Bush. am I missing something here in this 'news'?

Personally, i think it's terrific: let the Left move ever further left. They'll only alienate that many more people. Hurray for us good guys!
24 posted on 06/27/2003 5:23:15 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
Online primary was significant in that even Dennis Kucinish beat John Kerry. I figured Kerry would be a distant second but NEVER did I think he would be a distant third trailing BOTH Kucinich and Dean. This online primary IS significant.
25 posted on 06/27/2003 5:25:27 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He who laughs last was too dumb to figure out the joke first)
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To: OldFriend
Mary Matalin quit her White House job. Now the vile one is the sole breadwinner.

There's probably a job for him in telemarketing.

26 posted on 06/27/2003 5:29:45 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Sandy Day O'Connor (Sandy D) - Affirmative Action hire (it's true).)
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To: PJ-Comix
317,000 votes is a pretty good sample.
27 posted on 06/27/2003 5:30:04 PM PDT by jd777
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey, P-J, you notice how some intellectuals like to admit that they're technologically challenged? It almost seems like they wear their ignorance as a badge of honor--as if, they're too smart and important to deal with learning that piddly stuff--they, unlike us minions, have paid staff to deal with such mundane things. That allows the Carvilles of the world to free their brains and concentrate on the really important philosophical stuff: "Watch out--genius at work! computers? never touch the stuff! now back to solving the Meaning of Life." Truly exemplifies the arrogance of the liberal intelligentsia (and THAT's an oxymoron!)
28 posted on 06/27/2003 5:31:21 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: PJ-Comix
Oh, i see what you're saying. you were pointing out the significance of the ranking within the poll as opposed to who simply came out on top. Hmmm...still, Dean whooped Kucinich by 2-to-1, didn't he? So, i don't know that you can interpret much from the internal rankings when the data start getting so meager
29 posted on 06/27/2003 5:35:09 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: Bahbah
Carville never does anything to do away with his loud mouth, loose cannon image in my opinion.
30 posted on 06/27/2003 5:35:12 PM PDT by blackbart1
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To: blackbart1
I cannot bear to watch or listen to Carville. He's just raw guttural emotions--almost like watching Mr Hyde (of jeckyll and hyde) or Capt Jim of StarTrek when he had his personality split in two. Only with Carville, we never get to see any other side--it's always pure venom! I can't understand what kind of a relationship he and matalin have...nope, just can't understand it...
31 posted on 06/27/2003 5:39:29 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: jd777
317,000 votes is a pretty good sample.

A lot better sample than the Iowa caucuses.

32 posted on 06/27/2003 5:41:38 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He who laughs last was too dumb to figure out the joke first)
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To: MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
Hmmm...still, Dean whooped Kucinich by 2-to-1, didn't he? So, i don't know that you can interpret much from the internal rankings when the data start getting so meager.

And Kucinich whooped Kerry who is supposed to be the front runner. This shows that Kerry is VERY WEAK in deep Demmycrat support.

33 posted on 06/27/2003 5:43:51 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He who laughs last was too dumb to figure out the joke first)
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To: MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
If you write, you need a word processor. And if you use a word processor, you need a computer. And if you use a computer, you need to know how to fix it. A so-called intellectual who can't use a computer is mentally challenged, IMHO.
34 posted on 06/27/2003 5:49:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PJ-Comix
I wouldn't count Kerry out--he has enough ketchup money to buy his way to the top. I'm really enjoying all this maneuvering by the Rats and backstabbing and power plays. Let them eat their own.
35 posted on 06/27/2003 5:49:49 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
"it didn't surprise me that the polling public on an ultra liberal website likes ultra liberal Howard Dean the best."

If I recall correctly, I had an opportunity to vote for my number one choice and then #2. I voted for Howeird first and in another question, Kookinich.

Conservatives rule the internet and like to participate in Dem politics when given a chance. I get three or four Dem newsletters. The value of this poll is all the media attention it is getting. I think Gov. Dunce has reaped a pile of publicity compliments of many conservatives.

Remember, Forbes announced his candidacy on the internet and spent a fortune on a website and network that went nowhere.

yitbos

36 posted on 06/27/2003 6:03:26 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Veritas Vos Liberabit)
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To: PJ-Comix
Does everyone know how to sign up for MoveOn.org?

Go to

MoveOn.org

Scroll to the bottom right hand corner of the page. You'll find the "sign up" option there. Then, everyone can vote for their favorite in the next primary, and drive the Dems nuttier.

37 posted on 06/27/2003 6:06:45 PM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: PJ-Comix
Carville: "You know what's significant is that you have a homophobic idiot like Rick Santorum, that is the number three elected Republican in the United States and he embodies the values of the Republican Party."

Can you believe CNN allows this kind of trash talk on TV?
38 posted on 06/27/2003 6:09:45 PM PDT by rs79bm (Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence)
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To: blackbart1
Don't tell anyone, but I think Carville is gay.
39 posted on 06/27/2003 6:10:32 PM PDT by rs79bm (Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence)
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To: lainie
So, you've got a guy who named an ice cream after Jerry Garcia endorsing a presidential candidate? This is getting good.
40 posted on 06/27/2003 6:10:51 PM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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