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Economy Downs Bush's Re-Election Support (Bush's Reelect Numbers At 50% Or Lower)
The Guardian ^ | Wednesday June 25, 2003 7:19 AM | WILL LESTER (AP)

Posted on 06/25/2003 12:45:11 PM PDT by Russian Sage

Economy Downs Bush's Re-Election Support


Wednesday June 25, 2003 7:19 AM

By WILL LESTER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush basks in high approval ratings, but when potential voters are pressed about giving him a second term, the numbers drop, a reflection of worries about the struggling economy and a general wait-and-see attitude so far ahead of the election.

Bush's overall approval ratings have remained at 60 percent or higher in most polls since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But now that the electorate is turning to thinking about Bush's handling of the economy and wondering who the Democrats will nominate, the president's re-elect numbers are at 50 percent or lower in several polls.

In a recent CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll, 50 percent said they would vote for Bush and 38 percent backed the unknown Democratic candidate, with the rest undecided. Those numbers aren't very different from those garnered by Bush's father in June 1991, when the commander in chief was praised for the U.S. success in the Persian Gulf War and the Democrats were scrambling for a candidate.

Bill Clinton defeated George H.W. Bush in the 1992 election.

``With job approval, you're asking how they feel right now,'' said Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup poll. Bush's job approval ratings won't accurately reflect his potential until March or April next year, Newport said.

The current poll also found that 37 percent of Democrats approve of Bush's job performance, but only a third of those Democrats who approve would vote to re-elect him. Among independents, the re-elect numbers weren't as high as the approval ratings.

``What this means is that Democrats and independents who lean Democratic still want to consider other choices,'' said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. ``Bush will still have to convince swing voters that he's the right person for the job once a Democratic candidate emerges.

``It also says the public wants an election campaign and wants to see what the Democratic candidate will say,'' Kohut said.

Bush's re-elect numbers are even lower in the Ipsos-Cook Political Report tracking poll, which showed a drop for the president from April to June, a time when the nation's focus shifted from the U.S.-led war against Iraq to the economy, Medicare and tax cuts.

In June, 42 percent of those polled said they would definitely vote to re-elect Bush, and 31 percent said they would definitely vote for someone else. Bush had a 19-point advantage over an unnamed opponent in the April survey by the Ipsos-Cook Political Report.

Thomas Riehle, president of Ipsos Public Affairs, said the reason was simple: It's the economy.

For Democrats, struggling with a field of nine candidates and facing a Bush fund-raising machine that has raked in millions, the numbers provide some hope - and a challenge. Veteran pollster Warren Mitofsky said who the Democrats pick will influence the support for Bush's re-election.

``The real question for the Democrats is will they choose a candidate who's as good as people are looking for?'' Mitofsky said.

Pollsters also point to an inherent problem in asking people whether they favor the president or a hypothetical opponent. ``People can pick their favorite candidate, or they could pick someone who's not even in the field,'' said Doug Schwartz, director of the Quinnipiac University poll. ``People can pick their own fantasy candidate.''


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; election; gwb2004; poll; presidentbush; reelection
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When you factor out the undecided (who tend to split along the trend) the numbers are 57% for Bush, 43% not. These are landslide numbers.

The current poll also found that 37 percent of Democrats approve of  Bush's job performance, but only a third of those Democrats who approve  would vote to re-elect him.


It would be awfully hard for a Republican to loose with 12% of the Democrat vote.

I read else where that Bush's numbers look even better against any live Democrat.
1 posted on 06/25/2003 12:45:12 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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To: Russian Sage
Wishful thinking on the part of the leftists. They want a president like Clinton..Someone who is willing to sell out his country to Euro-trash: a global president.
2 posted on 06/25/2003 12:47:38 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Russian Sage
Also, the stockmarket continues to rebound, consumer confidence continues to climb, manufacturing looks like it's about to take off again. One economist said that everything is in place for a significant improvement of the economy in the second half of 2003. And with that, the Democrats can kiss their sorry patooties good-bye.
3 posted on 06/25/2003 12:48:50 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Russian Sage
I posted this in an earlier thread on this topic.
I read this earlier and thought, what a bunch of nonsense. So, I did a little research on x42. His approval rating in the same time period, about 18 months before the 96 election was an lukewarm 46%. His "deserve to be re-elected" number was 43%. Another poll in April of 95, had it at 39%. Also, at this time Dole was ahead of Clinton in several polls. I don't believe any democrat is ahead of Bush and that he is in serious re-election trouble.
4 posted on 06/25/2003 12:50:36 PM PDT by ReaganRevolution
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To: Russian Sage
Bush's numbers look even better against any live Democrat.

Maybe that's the Democrats' key to victory -- run a dead Democrat against Bush, maybe FDR.

This article is a prime example of how the media uses polls to manipulate the news. Every poll that pits an incumbent against people's expectations (and not any named candidate) results in low numbers for the incumbent. The media can then report that the incumbent is "in trouble." But 50% support for Bush against people's expectations?! That's pretty good! Pit him against Holy Joe, or John Fitzgerald Kerry, or Spin-Dr. Howard Dean, and Bush's support goes into Reaganesque landslide territory.

5 posted on 06/25/2003 12:52:26 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Russian Sage
President Bush: Job Ratings - Latest: June 18-22, 2003

6 posted on 06/25/2003 12:54:24 PM PDT by Wolverine
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To: Russian Sage
A hard reelect number in the 50% range is pretty damn good. As of now the President is in good shape. There is one democrat that scares me, and he's not running. His name is Evan Bayh. I think he's going to be VERY tough to beat if he somehow wins the democratic nomination from Hillary! in 2008.
7 posted on 06/25/2003 12:54:42 PM PDT by MainstreamConservative
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To: ReaganRevolution
good analysis...
8 posted on 06/25/2003 12:55:54 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Russian Sage
Already posted HERE
9 posted on 06/25/2003 12:56:24 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: Russian Sage
Hillary salivates at every one of these articles.

The economy is going to be the main issue. People vote based on their pocketbooks.

Yesterday and today, the ole DOW is heading south again.

Greenspan only has about 1% to play with now. It will be something to see a (minus .25% or .50%) interest rate.
10 posted on 06/25/2003 12:58:28 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Russian Sage
What bothers me is that sooo many people do not understand basic economics.

In a basic free market, the market naturally expands and contracts. When things expand to much(or appear better than they really are), the economy will begin to contract to get rid of the ineffeciencies. It’s a natural cleansing. This is healthy and why open markets work so well. They are self correcting! It has very little to do with the president!
11 posted on 06/25/2003 1:01:28 PM PDT by GeoPie
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President Bush basks in high approval ratings, but when potential voters are pressed about giving him a second term, the numbers drop, a reflection of worries about the struggling economy and a general wait-and-see attitude so far ahead of the election.

The term "potential voters" says it all. These are not likely voters. The dems are using the court nominations and the economy to incite high voter turnout, which benefits them. Democrats are lazy by nature. They know that they can only win by getting them all to the polls. There is nothing here to be concerned over. Bush will trounce the democrat candidate.

If they thought they really had a chance to win, then why isn't Hillary running? Isn't she supposed to be the smartest woman alive?

12 posted on 06/25/2003 1:05:03 PM PDT by AlGone2001 (If liberals must lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
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This poll is almost meaningless.

Comparing Bush to an unknown/unnamed candidate proves nothing. Under those standards, people will pick their ideal candidate. When compared to the current crop of named Democratic candidates, Bushes percentage climbs into the middle and upper 50% range. No contest so far. Bush wins big in 2004.

The economy is starting to pick up and full recovery is in motion. By next year at this time, the stock market will be above 10,000, unemployment will be below 6% and growth will be at 3%-4%.

13 posted on 06/25/2003 1:07:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: GeoPie
except that we have the fed manipulating the markets and market psychology with credit expansion, currency debasement, etc., so we don't really have free markets we have regulated capitalism.
15 posted on 06/25/2003 1:08:11 PM PDT by armedliberal
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To: Russian Sage
Another poll with no info given about how the poll was conducted. What a surprise.
16 posted on 06/25/2003 1:10:39 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: this_old_man_101
Suure it has. LoL.
17 posted on 06/25/2003 1:13:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: MainstreamConservative
I agree, Bayh seems unusually level-headed for a RAT.
18 posted on 06/25/2003 1:13:57 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: My2Cents
This article is a prime example of how the media uses polls to manipulate the news.

Lies, Damn Lies and Polls.

19 posted on 06/25/2003 1:14:49 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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Very dishonest article. Personal positives ("favorability") almost always score significantly higher than electability numbers. A 50% re-elect number is huge, especially with over 10% undecided.

Figure at this point, factoring in a years worth of scare-tactic campaigning, it's Bush 52%, random Dem 43%, Greens 3%, others 2%.

20 posted on 06/25/2003 1:15:25 PM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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