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Novak: California's runaway recall
Townhall.com ^ | 6-9-03 | Robert Novak

Posted on 06/08/2003 11:25:01 PM PDT by cgk

California's runaway recall
Robert Novak (archive)

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LOS ANGELES -- The movement to replace just re-elected Democrat Gray Davis as governor of California is beginning to look like a runaway train with nobody at the controls. The state's voters may go to the polls this fall to decide whether Gov. Davis shall be removed, would then probably vote him out and, on the same ballot, select his successor. Nobody can predict that successor, or even whether the winner would be a Republican or Democrat.

While bipartisan establishment politicians remain in denial, realists now are taking the recall movement seriously. Dave Galliard, a Sacramento-based political consultant seeking signatures for recall petitions, says 520,000 voters have signed. He is aiming for 1.2 million, providing insurance that the required 897,000 valid names are collected. If this is done by July 18, an election must be held in September or October. Gov. Davis, at 21 percent approval in a recent private labor union poll, cannot be expected to survive.

That is not what President Bush's strategists want to hear. They fear the recall could elect a popular Democrat to replace the weakened Davis, making it more difficult for Bush to carry the state that would ensure his re-election. They cannot stop the train at this point, however. The recall movement has characteristics of anti-establishment resentment that in 1978 passed the famous Proposition 13 tax cut.

Seven months after winning a second term against neophyte Republican candidate Bill Simon, Davis has lost support from everybody except organized labor. His campaign team, headed by Garry South, is reassembling to fight the recall. But this is the same team that won in 2002 by savaging Simon without defending Davis, who never prepared voters for his tax increases to solve the state budget crisis.

Similarly, Republican leaders have changed their attitude since a recent visit to the state capital in Sacramento by the conservative congressman who triggered the recall movement: Rep. Darrell Issa, a multi-millionaire entrepreneur. Issa called Republican Leader Jim Brulte off the Senate floor to detail his plans to fund the movement -- $700,000 contributed by him so far with more coming. Since then, Brulte's hostility to a recall has changed to neutrality.

As the recall originator, Issa must be considered a leader in the winner-take-all non-party election on the same ballot as the Davis removal question. But he is not the only Republican hopeful. State Sen. Tom McClintock, an anti-tax advocate, is running to Issa's right. Simon, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger and former Secretary of State Bill Jones have been privately testing support.

All may be dwarfed by a liberal Republican: former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan. After losing to conservative Simon in the 2002 GOP primary, Riordan has asked for White House help in clearing out the rest of the Republicans. Since that is patently impossible, Riordan may run as an independent.

Gerald Parsky, the investment banker who is Bush's main political agent here, has not joined the recall movement. "I understand why people in California would be upset by the financial crisis," Parsky told me, "but my first priority is the re-election of the president and getting the financing necessary to accomplish this."

Other Republican critics of the recall see a nightmare scenario where Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the state's most popular politician, enters the race and easily wins -- replacing a 21 percent favorable Democrat with a 62 percent favorable. But Feinstein is on record against Davis's recall and can hardly urge voters to vote for her on the same ballot.

The same conflict afflicts other Democrats who are more likely to run than Feinstein: Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer, State Treasurer Phil Angelides and maybe San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown. It least affects State Senate President John Burton, who detests Davis and is ready to run. (One of Burton's supporters, a well-known Democrat, told me he is tempted to sign a Davis recall petition.)

Fear by leading Republicans that any one of these Democrats probably will replace Davis reflects the GOP establishment's defeatism, resulting from the state party's 2002 wipeout. The prospects for a recall, however, have lifted spirits of California grassroots Republicans, who hope a low-turnout autumn election will defeat the Democrats. Whether or not that appraisal is realistic, it is becoming too late to stop the runaway recall.

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: cgk
They fear the recall could elect a popular Democrat to replace the weakened Davis, making it more difficult for Bush to carry the state that would ensure his re-election.

Screw California, dammit! California is a lost cause. Nobody knew what the Boston Tea Party would lead to but sometimes the pipples just get so pissed off they have to take action regardless of what someone else's political ambitions are. The 2004 election is not going to be another nail-biter.

This Compassionate Timidity is pissing me off.

181 posted on 06/09/2003 8:21:59 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: SteveH
I'M SICK OF YOU CALIFORNICATORS TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT YOU ARE!!! The only reason that Laci Peterson is getting so much friggin' attention (despite the fact that spouses kill each other all the time througout the country) is that it took place in California, a place I hope falls into the sea for the next earthquake.

Just think, now Nevada can have a real coastline!

182 posted on 06/09/2003 8:47:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: FairOpinion
Sorry, but everytime we here in the northeast are told that a Republican is "fiscally conservative, socially tolerant," it really means "lover of big government and all forms of social deviancy."
183 posted on 06/09/2003 8:51:40 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: FairOpinion
Look, your stands in this thread about how badly CA needs Riordan are naive at best and destructive at worst. You've been told by me, and by almost everyone else here that Riordan is simply a no-go. You've been told that he supports destructive extremist-left (and anti-American) 'Rat pols. He supported Maxine Waters, he supported Dianne Feinstein in a winnable race for us in '94 (and Huffington, despite his baggage, is better that DiFi), he supported Villaraigosa, a Aztlan Mayoral freak to succeed him as Mayor, Richard Alarcon, and on and on and on. What part of "this man is NOT a Republican" do you continue to fail to comprehend ? He does not stand for GOP ideals, he is NOT a team player. He had the audacity to badmouth former Gov. Deukmejian, the last Conservative GOP Governor, at a GOP function, for whom he couldn't hold his jock. Riordan does what's good for Riordan. Giuliani in NYC started off much like Riordan, endorsing Mario Cuomo in '94 for reelection, a dumba$$ move that looked as though for a few days following that GOP electoral blowout, he'd be booted from the party. Fortunately for him, he got with the program. Riordan never got with the program. Did he "campaign" for Simon ? If he did some phonecalls, that's only a halfassed "campaign." The annointed RINO primary nominee in my state for Gov whom people like you were saying "he's the only one who can win" after he was obliterated by the authentic GOP candidate, similarly did the Riordan way of "campaigning" very very late in the season, and shed no tears when he lost because most of his supporters went to the rich, campaign-law violating 'Rat.

If Riordan was so fantastic, he could've pulled a win out in the primary. He was blown out of the water because most GOP voters were smart enough to realize he wasn't one of us. They didn't want someone going to Sacramento to be a "nicer guy" version of Davis doing "go along to get along" schtick with the real bosses in Sacramento, Burton & Wesson, and jettisoning any manner and sort of principled GOP philosophy. You seem to think a "Republican", any "Republican" will do, and that is far from the truth. This, again, is naivete at its worst.

BTW, do you know why Bush went with Riordan, nevermind that jacka$$ Gerry Parsky who wants to do for the CA GOP what William Weld did to the MA GOP (and for the record, there IS NO MA GOP, now that Conservatives were told to take a hike) ? Because of a fella named Bill Jones, who you seem to have ignored in this thread. Jones won statewide office twice, holding on even in the Wilson '98 blowout, and was a natural opponent for Davis in '02. Why wasn't he endorsed ? Because he switched to McCain in '00 for President. Bush had reason to be mad, but on occasion, he gets it wrong with handpicking candidates (he similarly interferred in my state with a Senate candidate none of us wanted, instead of a more popular Congressman with more experience. The former won, in spite of himself), and he was clearly wrong here.

BTW, you remind me greatly of all the people running around CA in 1966 who said no Conservative Republican could ever win the Governorship. All the elites and know-it-alls were touting the San Francisco ultraliberal George Christopher, because he was the "only" one who could beat fellow liberal Pat Brown, 2-term incumbent. They watched in horror as some right-wing B-movie actor took the nomination and then the general election. I think you know his name. Never say a Conservative can't win, because you just might be surprised.
184 posted on 06/09/2003 9:37:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: FairOpinion
I hope Republicans won't make the same mistake as they did the last time,-- which is the reason we need to have this recally effort,-- by nominating Simon, a wonderful Republican, but clearly not one who could beat Davis in liberal California.

If Simon had any trace of a spine, he could've whupped Davis. Davis' pained attempts to tie Simon to Enron went unanswered. Even though Davis received the single-largest contribution from Enron of any politician ($200K), Simon didn't feel the need for any sort of counter-offensive.

Instead, Simon played nice and kept quiet, then finally made a pathetic 11th Hour TV spot with his wife where he practically apologized for everything Davis accused him of and assured California voters that he really wasn't a bad guy after all.

And let's not forget the infamous bogus fund-raising photo, the Davis campaign's October Surprise that Simon's camp fell for hook, line and sinker.

Despite the fact that Simon ran one of the weakest campaigns in recent memory and made every mistake he possibly could have, he still took 43 of 57 counties (or something like that) in the state.

To suggest that the Democrats who have run this state into the dirt can't be beaten by anyone but a RINO is absurd. We don't need Riordan. We just need a real conservative with some balls.

185 posted on 06/09/2003 10:07:23 PM PDT by WarSlut
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"and Huffington, despite his baggage, is better that DiFi"

Huffington is more liberal than Riordan, lots more.

You are using the same logic I was using, even a liberal Republican is orders of magnitude better than a Democrat.

And it's easy for you to talk, you don't live in California, but I do and I am darn tired of all the leftist politicians, who are making this great state practically unlivable, and when we finally have a chance to get a Republican in office, the Republicans are their own worst enemies, by insisting on unelectable conservative candidates, letting the Democrats continue their rule.
186 posted on 06/09/2003 10:30:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"Huffington is more liberal than Riordan, lots more."

No, he most certainly is not. His lifetime ACU rating was 70%, not Conservative, but not liberal.

"You are using the same logic I was using, even a liberal Republican is orders of magnitude better than a Democrat."

See above. Huffington could claim to be a moderate, Riordan would've been in leftist Jeffords territory had he served in Congress. Riordan was more comfortable with the leftist DiFi than moderate Huffington, which is why he endorsed her, as he enjoys endorsing leftist 'Rats. A claim you haven't refuted. How many authentic Republicans you know go all out for 'Rats and give them big $$ ?

"And it's easy for you to talk, you don't live in California,"

Uh, most of my family is in California. Let's see how many people in CA can even NAME the legislative politburo leader thugs, I can. I'm very familiar with the drug-addled Burton.

"but I do and I am darn tired of all the leftist politicians, who are making this great state practically unlivable,"

You are a walking contradiction. You're tired of leftist pols, yet you are championing the biggest LEFT-WING RINO in the state of CA after that scum Parsky (with Brooks Firestone bringing up the rear). I told you that I just got finished having a Riordanite Governor and he left the state in shambles, and bequeathed us my ethically-challenged 'Rat ex-Mayor to succeed him.

"and when we finally have a chance to get a Republican in office, the Republicans are their own worst enemies, by insisting on unelectable conservative candidates, letting the Democrats continue their rule."

Do you even KNOW what a Republican is ? Anyone who thinks Riordan will usher in some non-leftist agenda while proclaiming Mike Huffington is "lots more liberal" than Tricky Dick must obviously not. It's clear you didn't even read the part about Reagan. Having an "R" after ones name doesn't make them a real Republican.

187 posted on 06/09/2003 10:46:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: FairOpinion
Tom McClintock

McClintock

Tom McClintock

McClintock

Tom McClintock

188 posted on 06/10/2003 1:32:39 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: goldstategop
All this moaning by the GOP is nonsense. Here we have a state that is RECALLING a DNC governor. There's only one thing to say about it: good. The fact that the GOP can't capitalize on that is a non-factor. It's a long-run plus.
189 posted on 06/10/2003 2:27:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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To: FairOpinion
You may be right. I don't know. I haven't followed Riordan generally for some time. I do know that I was very unhappy that he supported some very liberal Dems.
190 posted on 06/10/2003 6:32:19 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: ElkGroveDan
After RINO Governor George Ryan, it will probably be a generation before Illinois sees an actual GOP governor. Like Riordan, George Ryan threw his weight behind the lavender mafia, baby-killing, gun grabbing, tax raising and every other political perversion known to the leftist wing of the GOP or RINOcrats. The only difference between RINOcrats and Demonrats is that RINOcrats don't want to belong to a party (the Demonratic) where they would have to actually socialize with blacks or Hispanics much less with folks who get their hands dirty working for a living.

If the GOP opts for snobocracy and refuses to work for the votes of socially conservative Democrats, the GOP will be rendered an historic curiosity. An already existing model of politically irrelevant snobocracy exists in England in the form of the Liberal Democrats, a merger of the Social Democrats who split with Labor because they recognized, like Henry Jackson here, that to be liberal did not REQUIRE one to be such a da*n fool as to kow tow to communists and the Liberal Party (gentlemen who did not like to rub elbows with workers). The Social Democrats such as Roy Jenkins are now dead and their name is misappropriated by the racist and snobbish Liberal Gentlemen's Club.

The United States has had little truck with snobocracy as a tradition in electoral politics since Andrew Jackson's election more than a little while ago. Turning the GOP into soulless, clueless, polo playing, baby-killing, lavender cuddling, disarmed, ohhh so guilty, money-changers is not a prescription for success or even party survival. The answer to Riordan and others like him is NOOOOOOO!

191 posted on 06/10/2003 7:29:47 AM PDT by BlackElk ("Moderate Republicanism" isn't Republicanism at all , just a racist form of leftist Demonratism)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Flat out, Riordan was of no help to the Simon campaign. I think he gave a token $5,000 (which is small change copmpared to other candidates and causes he has donated to).

I was there, it's no secret what I was doing last fall. Riordan was no help, zero, zip, nada.

192 posted on 06/10/2003 7:41:56 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: FairOpinion; fieldmarshaldj; ElkGroveDan
If you are going to continue to have disaster in paradise, let it be Demonrat disaster. Electing a rich Republican baby-killer with no conservative social principles whatsoever does nothing but consolidate the Demonrat policies so that your next Demonrat will be still worse. You need to do serious grassroots work to primary out RINO legislators, run red meat Republicans to defeat Demonrats, take shameless advantage of Doofus's problems, viciously apply wedge issues to drive a wooden stake in the heart of the Demonrat coalition and take California back. It will not be an exercise for the watercress sandwich set.

The view of the Margaret Sanger/Dykes on Bikes wing of the California GOP is that guys with big bucks and no clues are somehow entitled to run the cocktail parties at the governor's mansion, to line their pockets and those of their pals with fat jobs and contracts and to do so by distancing themselves from all those embarassing troglodites who resent Skipper marrying his heartthrob Lance and Muffy getting her twelfth abortion since her debutante ball because she just keeps on making "mistakes".

Riordan, the "fiscal conservative", must have recognized qualities that the rest of us missed when endorsing and funding that riot-cheerleading Waters woman for Congress.

Door-to-door gun confiscation such as Riordan salivates over? Now, there is a program for Republicans to crave! But, but, but Riordan is a good man of business who can manage California as governor better than Grey Doofus! Don't we understand: Good management will save us! Of course, your average goldfish can do a better job of managing than Doofus and very possibly do a better job of leaving your guns alone than RINO Riordan but never mind!

We are cutting off your nose not ours and that is a necessary task until the RINOs are run out of GOP politics in California. The preconditions of the restoration of civilization in California are: the prompt evaporation of this Parsky clown; a Republican Party that is once again genuinely Republican; the hard grassroots effort to elect a larger Republican farm team at the level of county supervisors and state legislators; the hard and vicious use of wedge issues to split the Demonrat Party and particularly to attract working class Democrats who are social conservatives to cross the line to the GOP; purge the voting lists of phonies and the dead and prosecute those responsible for the fraud. When Californians have done all that, California will already be far better "managed" than it is under Doofus or would be under RINO Riordan and the Demonrats will be in unfunded disarray where they belong.

193 posted on 06/10/2003 7:57:39 AM PDT by BlackElk ("Moderate Republicanism" isn't Republicanism at all , just a racist form of leftist Demonratism)
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To: ElkGroveDan
A difference that makes no difference is no difference.

It is the policies , not the label, that is important. If the new Republican is for abortion,for gun control,for more taxes,...why bother ?

If the choice is Democrat-socialistor Republican-socialist ,the conservatives wil stay home.

194 posted on 06/10/2003 8:02:32 AM PDT by hoosierham
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To: kellynla
So I was thinking maybe running off some copies of the petition and passing them out in the parking lot of the parish on Sundays after Mass. They won't let me set up a table outside the church which is probably correct. That old separation of church and state issue.

Right, because handing out petitions at a church would be an unconstitutional establishment of religion.

Gag me with a spoon!

195 posted on 06/10/2003 8:08:02 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: BlackElk
"The United States has had little truck with snobocracy as a tradition in electoral politics since Andrew Jackson's election more than a little while ago. Turning the GOP into soulless, clueless, polo playing, baby-killing, lavender cuddling, disarmed, ohhh so guilty, money-changers is not a prescription for success or even party survival."

So much of this describes the Nashville GOP. Wealthy elitist snobs who don't leave the Country Club except to travel to one another's mansions while entertaining the 'Rat thugs that have run the city for one and one-third of a century (since about the time Ruthie B. Hayes pulled up stakes and said to all the newly-enfranchised Southern Black citizenry, "Hey, dudes, it's been real, but I can't give this job up to some guy named Sammy Jo Tilden. C'ya !). Don't get me wrong, they're nice enough to pony up the dough for the national GOP (and quite a chunk of change, too), but when it comes down to party-building in their own backyard, their one (out of 10) Belle Meade Republican is good enough for them. Bullcrap, it ain't good enough. 40% of the vote we get in this county, and the 'Rats claim it like they own 90% ! What a joke.

196 posted on 06/10/2003 8:34:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: BlackElk
Right on !
197 posted on 06/10/2003 8:34:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: FairOpinion
Let me give you a more precise snapshot. RINO Riordan wants to invoke God to say that God put him here to help poor children. His method? Seeing to it that their mothers can put the poor kids to death at the abortion mills of California and seeing to it that those mothers will continue to be pressured to put their kids to death.

Also, RINO Riordan will deal with guns like he dealt with No Parking signs. Grab the guns and apologize later. It is easier to apologize than to get permission, right? All you seem to care about is taxes (and probably not all of them) and business. Why should Republicans primarily motivated by their RTKBA, social conservatism, religious conservatism, actual family values and what not vote for Mr. Businessman who wants to kill kids and grab guns? The election of Riordan would merely mean that there is one party in California and no purpose in politics. Allegedly good management is a crashing bore and certainly not a fit purpose for political war.

In the Palo Alto Daily News "snapshot", one of four "issues" highlighted is Education. Riordan says absolutely nothing about the abysmal content of of public education and Mr. Management only wants to nibble around the edges of the major disaster that is government education (particularly in California), rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. This is nothing more than the insipid razzle-dazzle of Lindsayism in New York. Endless "reorganization" of disastrous government agencies with no visible results other than hiring his cronies to replace the other guy's cronies. If RINO Riordan really wants to help poor kids, he can voucherize California gummint education. Not likely! After all, being governor is a social opportunity. His wife's friends will be soooo impressed that Dickie will be governing the wogs.

I am also imagining that Riordan will want to give in to the hand-wringing polo players and art afficionados on the death penalty and to substitute rehabilitation of mass murderers for transportation of them to where they belong by injection. RINO Ryan cleared death row by clemency on his way out of public life. Just think what RINO Riordan can do for the even splashier butchers and kid-killers in California! They are jussst sooooo misunderstood. We have to be nicer to them and maybe they won't rape and murder kids. Maybe some nice publicly subsidized art programs? Macrame for murderers? Wahabi edumucashion for Charley Manson? If they still rape and murder kids, at least RINO Riordan can tell his wife's artsy and craftsy friends that he did not sink to the level of those horrid, uncultured, dreadful right-wing nuts who actually think crime should be punished.

198 posted on 06/10/2003 8:44:02 AM PDT by BlackElk ("Moderate Republicanism" isn't Republicanism at all , just a racist form of leftist Demonratism)
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To: FairOpinion
If you nominate Riordan, you CAN'T win. Riordan is a left-wing bum.
199 posted on 06/10/2003 8:49:50 AM PDT by BlackElk ("Moderate Republicanism" isn't Republicanism at all , just a racist form of leftist Demonratism)
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To: BlackElk
So why don't you guys come up with someone else who actually CAN get elected in CA, not someone who can "almost win".

That's fine with me.

The Republicans had their best chance to get a R. gov in CA, running against universally unpopular Davis, and spin is as you want to, but bottom line is that Republicans nominated a candidate who LOST to Davis. MIckey Mouse could have beaten Davis, but a conservative Republicans couldn't and won't. (Simon may be a great guy, may have been a great governor, but he was unelectable, as the election proved it)

200 posted on 06/10/2003 8:50:13 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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