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Only 71% Americans can locate Pacific Ocean on a map
Forbes ^ | May 12, 2003 Issue | Paul Recer

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:37:27 AM PDT by yankeedame

Survey Says

A National Geographic study released [in November] found that only about one in seven Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 could find Iraq [on a map]. Although 58% knew that the Taliban and al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan, only 17% could find that country.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries.

Americans got an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21. Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38.

Other findings: When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the U.S., only California and Texas could be located by a large majority. Only 51% could find New York.

On a world map, Americans could find on average only 7 of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89% of the Americans surveyed could find their own country.

Only 71% of the surveyed Americans could locate the Pacific Ocean.

--Paul Recer, Associated Press

(And, while we're on the subject this from USA Today/Forbes)

"No idea in politics has hurt children more than the false and misleading idea that the quality of education is determined by how much we spend.

"More than 35 years after Congress passed the first Elementary and Secondary Education Act, public school spending per pupil has more than doubled--even when adjusted for inflation--from $3,331 in 1965-1966 to $8,194 in 2000-2001.

" In fact, the federal government has spent more than $321 billion on education programs since 1965. Every year, spending on K-12 education by all levels of government exceeds $400 billion.

"Yet, citizens must ask, what have we gotten for all this? Fewer than a third of fourth-graders can read proficiently.

"No, the problem isn't--and never has been--money alone. This is just the most tired of all excuses. If there is no account-ability, or schools use unproven fads for instruction, it doesn't matter how much money is thrown at a problem; it will be wasted."

--Rod Paige, Secretary of Education


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; geography; geographyeducation
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To: PA Engineer
19 of 20. Missed the religion one. Poorly designed test, most distractors weren't on the same continent as the correct answer.
61 posted on 04/30/2003 7:29:39 AM PDT by j_tull (My words but a whisper, your deafness a SHOUT!)
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To: FourPeas
I don't know, maybe I'm giving folks too much credit.
62 posted on 04/30/2003 7:35:07 AM PDT by TankerKC (If we blame our parents, will our kids blame us?)
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To: wideawake
Americans are biased toward practicality, always have been and always will be.

You make some interesting points, but I believe that having a point of world reference that geography provides, gives a much richer understanding of current and historical events. This isn't simply beneficial to the "meritocracy" as you put it; it's vital to the masses as well. It's not just this meritocracy that votes, it's the masses too.

We cannot argue for a strong defense, if we don't know where we're defending against. We cannot debate whether or not a trade agreement is beneficial or not, if we don't have a general idea of the countries involved. And, we cannot determine whether or not it's worth sending troops halfway around the world to battle terrorism, if we don't have an idea of where they're going and the conditions they'll be fighting in.

These are just some of the reasons for the "practicality" of general geographic knowledge. The majority of Americans are not using geography to innovate, but they should have an awareness if they want to participate in the political and economic process.

63 posted on 04/30/2003 7:36:42 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: yankeedame
and who says the Publik skewls aren't working!
64 posted on 04/30/2003 7:37:19 AM PDT by arly
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To: Alberta's Child
ARNE GOES GEOGRAPHYING:

Northenmost town in Alberta: Fort McMurray

Birthplace of NHL Sutter brothers: Lethbridge

Common Penalty Infractions By Sutters: Fighting, Roughing, Boarding, Spearing, Slashing, High Sticking, Charging, Cross Checking, Unsportsmalike Conduct, Intent to Injure Game Major, Gross Misconduct, Game Misconduct

Alberta's Major Shared Resource: Janet Jones

65 posted on 04/30/2003 7:38:31 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: arly
I hates to be the spelting policed but:

Two K's in Publik

66 posted on 04/30/2003 7:41:20 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: mewzilla
"What do you do about the adults who don't know jack?"

Employ them as janitors.

67 posted on 04/30/2003 7:46:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: j_tull
Same result here.

I really have trouble believing that more Mexicans knew the population of the US than people in the US do.

68 posted on 04/30/2003 7:47:43 AM PDT by TankerKC (If we blame our parents, will our kids blame us?)
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To: Brad Cloven
Employ them as janitors.

...or Geography teachers.

69 posted on 04/30/2003 7:48:26 AM PDT by TankerKC (If we blame our parents, will our kids blame us?)
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To: Alberta's Child
Correction: Birthplace of Sutters - Viking, Alberta

Sutter Marketing Tag Line: "Six brothers, one brain."

Historic Location Proving Earliest Hominid and Neanderthal Life: Stu Hart's Gym, Calgary

70 posted on 04/30/2003 7:49:43 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: tcostell
The public school teacher should be our heroes. The are terribly underpaid. Why this country doesn't believe in investing in the child is beyond me. We don't want to pay to send them to daycare, we don't want to pay to have them taught properly. What are our children to us? Dogs, that we brush aside because they take too much of our time? Blaming the teacher first is a sure sign of not taking responsibility as a parent to make sure your child get's his/her homework done and studies properly, IMHO. :)
71 posted on 04/30/2003 7:51:06 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: AmericanInTokyo
...I had to explain to one of our office assistants, using a flashlight and an orange and darkening the room, that the world was in fact ROUND!

Silly. There is no flashlight involved in the cycle of day and night. It's all done with computer animation from Hollywood.

72 posted on 04/30/2003 7:51:20 AM PDT by TankerKC (If we blame our parents, will our kids blame us?)
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To: yankeedame
May 12, 2003 Issue | Paul Recer


Posted on 04/30/2003 6:37 AM PDT by yankeedame
The dates are interesting,a look into the future past. I saw the results of this same study months ago.
73 posted on 04/30/2003 7:52:56 AM PDT by familyofman
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To: ArneFufkin
Your hockey knowledge is very good, but your geography leaves a lot to be desired. : )

The Sutter brothers were born in the small farming town of Viking, Alberta. All of them played junior hockey for the Lethbridge Broncos of the WHL, though.

The northernmost town in Alberta is probably Fort Fitzgerald -- up north of Lake Athabasca near Wood Buffalo National Park. Fort McMurray may be the northernmost CITY in the province.

Alberta's Major Shared Resource: Janet Jones

LOL.

74 posted on 04/30/2003 7:56:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Laurie S
Heroic teachers are our heroes. Crappy teachers should play craps.

Don't make us break down your work year, please.

75 posted on 04/30/2003 7:57:19 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: TankerKC
I just don't believe that.

"Is the Earth flat or round? I don't remember." A serious question from a girl who attended my high school.

76 posted on 04/30/2003 7:58:23 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: ArneFufkin
Best Quote About Americans Ever Heard in the Province of Alberta (from a wise old rancher out near Water Valley):

"I never understood the Jim Crow era in the U.S. Why would you treat certain people like that? . . . It's not as if they were Injuns."

77 posted on 04/30/2003 8:00:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Laurie S
Why this country doesn't believe in investing in the child is beyond me.

Paying teacher more = investing in the child? Wrong!

We don't want to pay to send them to daycare, we don't want to pay to have them taught properly. ...SNIP...Blaming the teacher first is a sure sign of not taking responsibility as a parent to make sure your child gets his/her homework done and studies properly, IMHO. :)

So, which is it? Do we (I assume you mean the government) pay to send our kids to daycare, or do we take responsibility as parents. You can’t have it both ways.

Are you a teacher? I'm just curious.

78 posted on 04/30/2003 8:02:33 AM PDT by TankerKC (If we blame our parents, will our kids blame us?)
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To: j_tull
19 of 20, and also missed the religion one. The placement of the distractors adds even more to the tragedy of our outcomes based education system.
79 posted on 04/30/2003 8:02:39 AM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: Alberta's Child
The northernmost town in Alberta is probably Fort Fitzgerald

How could I forget the Twin Cities of Fort Fitzgerald, Alberta and Uranium City, Saskatchawan? I apologize to all the Albertarianites and Saskatchawantonians.

80 posted on 04/30/2003 8:03:14 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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