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Only 71% Americans can locate Pacific Ocean on a map
Forbes ^ | May 12, 2003 Issue | Paul Recer

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:37:27 AM PDT by yankeedame

Survey Says

A National Geographic study released [in November] found that only about one in seven Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 could find Iraq [on a map]. Although 58% knew that the Taliban and al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan, only 17% could find that country.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries.

Americans got an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21. Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38.

Other findings: When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the U.S., only California and Texas could be located by a large majority. Only 51% could find New York.

On a world map, Americans could find on average only 7 of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89% of the Americans surveyed could find their own country.

Only 71% of the surveyed Americans could locate the Pacific Ocean.

--Paul Recer, Associated Press

(And, while we're on the subject this from USA Today/Forbes)

"No idea in politics has hurt children more than the false and misleading idea that the quality of education is determined by how much we spend.

"More than 35 years after Congress passed the first Elementary and Secondary Education Act, public school spending per pupil has more than doubled--even when adjusted for inflation--from $3,331 in 1965-1966 to $8,194 in 2000-2001.

" In fact, the federal government has spent more than $321 billion on education programs since 1965. Every year, spending on K-12 education by all levels of government exceeds $400 billion.

"Yet, citizens must ask, what have we gotten for all this? Fewer than a third of fourth-graders can read proficiently.

"No, the problem isn't--and never has been--money alone. This is just the most tired of all excuses. If there is no account-ability, or schools use unproven fads for instruction, it doesn't matter how much money is thrown at a problem; it will be wasted."

--Rod Paige, Secretary of Education


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; geography; geographyeducation
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To: mhking
Only 71% of the surveyed Americans could locate the Pacific Ocean.

Not surprisingly only 62% of Americans could find their butt with both hands.

41 posted on 04/30/2003 7:07:18 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("Beware the barrenness of a busy life." - Socrates)
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To: yankeedame
On a world map, Americans could find on average only 7 of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89% of the Americans surveyed could find their own country.

Quick you have five seconds to find: Burkina Faso, Tonga, Moldovia, The Artist Who Used To Be Baghdad Bob, Lichtenstein, Diego Garcia, The Iraqi Republic of France, Canuckland, Eritrea and Cleveland.

42 posted on 04/30/2003 7:07:43 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: mewzilla
Yes. With the internet, etc. it is not a lack of information, it is a lack of 'will' and 'inspiration' which have to be imparted by the educational system and the individual also has an objective responsibility to better himself/herself.
43 posted on 04/30/2003 7:08:37 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Il had ANOTHER bad underwear day . He found "decapitate" in his English-Korean dictionary.)
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To: Brad Cloven
What do you do about the adults who don't know jack? These weren't kids being polled. These were adults who have no excuse for being so ill-informed.
44 posted on 04/30/2003 7:08:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Paul Ross
"spending on K-12 education by all levels of government exceeds $400 billion. "

Ok got it. I failed to distinguish between federal and all levels of government.

45 posted on 04/30/2003 7:09:13 AM PDT by Kerberos (Ah yes the liberal democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error. Tony Blair 3/18/03)
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To: yankeedame
Yes. But, these results were from a cross-section of Americans. When the testing was limited to the entertainment industry, those that could actually understand the question correctly identified the Pacific Ocean only 11 percent of the time. However, in light of the education level of most the Hollywood elites, this was considered a good score. Hillary Clinton got it right, but its not clear whether she was given the answer in advance by David Letterman. Bill Clinton never recorded an answer as he was still talking about the format of the test and how it might impact on his legacy when time ran out.
46 posted on 04/30/2003 7:11:14 AM PDT by Pharlap
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To: So Cal Rocket
I would also like to see some geography test runs comparing, say, high school freshman in the US, UK, Russia, Korea, Japan, Eygpt, etc. with the same geographic test. I know Japan is slipping, too. 20 years ago their students could probably point out all of those seas and countries and landmarks. It has dipped terribly in the last few years that many of THEM could probably not identify the Atlantic Ocean, too.

It has to do with standards, inspiration, and personal will/responsibility.

47 posted on 04/30/2003 7:11:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Il had ANOTHER bad underwear day . He found "decapitate" in his English-Korean dictionary.)
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To: wideawake
Sweden and Germany can continue to excel in geography . . . The US is happy to continue to excel in business, warfighting and technological innovation.

It's all fun and games until the best-run corporation in the world builds the most technologically advanced weapon ever known, and the best military in the history of mankind drops it on the wrong building in Yugoslavia.

48 posted on 04/30/2003 7:13:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: yankeedame
Maybe not, but I bet they could locate all the gender specific words in the Constitution, feel outraged, and contact the lawyers of the ACLU, all while reciting the ways to get qualify for welfare illegitimately, AND pop a condom over a zucchini in 10 seconds flat!! Gotta love public school education!
49 posted on 04/30/2003 7:17:21 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: yankeedame
Who has time for geography lessons? There are more important things to worry about:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/903078/posts
50 posted on 04/30/2003 7:17:30 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: yankeedame
The other 29% could not find themselves in a chair.
51 posted on 04/30/2003 7:19:30 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I know Japan is slipping, too

More crap on the pile: Mothra is on the wing, and she's five miles from giving Kyoto a large helping of "better luck next life."

52 posted on 04/30/2003 7:19:46 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: mewzilla
The probably came up through the public school system.

I wonder if any of them ever asks "Why didn't I learn this in school?"
53 posted on 04/30/2003 7:19:59 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: So Cal Rocket
Wouldn't you love to see the poll data broken down into 3 segments:

Yes: 1)DemocRAT'S kids.
2)Republican's kids.
3)Libertarian kids.

54 posted on 04/30/2003 7:20:10 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: yankeedame
ROD PAIGE FOR PRESIDENT
55 posted on 04/30/2003 7:21:06 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I crack me up!)
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To: yankeedame
Wow, Forbes is on the ball with this one. We were all over this months ago...

Take the National Geographic Global Literacy Survey!
11/21/2002 12:33 AM CST with 112 comments

Young Canadians barely know geography, National Geographic survey says
11/20/2002 10:28 PM CST with 4 comments

Young Americans flunk geography, according to National Geographic quiz survey
11/20/2002 1:50 PM CST with 61 comments

56 posted on 04/30/2003 7:23:37 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: yankeedame
Look how many years it took for Balboa to find it.

I always wondered why history credited him for the discovery of the Pacific Ocean when there were plenty of people on the Pacific islands and in Central and South America who went fishing in it every day.

I guess Balboa was a liberal and therefore the media of that time had to give him the credit. It's like the 'balanced budget'...the media contends that Clinton invented it (after vetoing it twice).

57 posted on 04/30/2003 7:25:13 AM PDT by capt. norm
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To: Dionysius
he other 29% could not find themselves in a chair.

It's a good thing the kids are too stupid to understand percentages, they might be momentarily insulted by your statement before confusing themselves about what's going on.

58 posted on 04/30/2003 7:26:06 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: TankerKC
I just don’t believe that.

Really? Of my four grown nephews, I'd guess you might find one who could find it and I wouldn't doubt that it would be entirely by a "lucky" guess. Seriously.

59 posted on 04/30/2003 7:26:44 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Alberta's Child
The wrong building? Care to clarify?

Assuming that a single mistake in targeting is attributable to the general level of geographical education in the US (a hilariously improbable stretch), are you suggesting that a Swede or a Frenchman could have done better?

60 posted on 04/30/2003 7:28:25 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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