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Dawn Of American Religion Found (2,250 BC)
The Telegraph (UK) ^
| 4-15-2003
| Roger Highfield
Posted on 04/14/2003 4:53:48 PM PDT by blam
Dawn of American religion found
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 15/04/2003)
The oldest image of a deity in the Americas has been discovered by archaeologists - pushing back the origin of religion there by 1,000 years.
A 4,000-year-old gourd fragment bearing an image of the Staff God
A 4,250-year-old gourd fragment found in a looted cemetery on the Peruvian coast, 120 miles north of Lima, bears an archaic image of the Staff God, which was the principal deity in the region for millennia.
"Like the cross, the Staff God is a clearly recognisable religious icon," said Jonathan Haas, of The Field Museum in Chicago. "This appears to be the oldest identifiable religious icon found in the Americas. It indicates that organised religion began in the Andes more than 1,000 years earlier than previously thought."
The Staff God is an iconic motif long associated with several Andean cultures. The figure is commonly shown in a frontal view, with a fanged mouth and splayed and clawed feet. Snakes are often part of the figure's headdress or integrated into its garments. Most commonly, the deity is depicted holding a staff.
The newly found fragment has been radiocarbon-dated to 2,250 BC, the journal Archaeology reported. It bears a simple, incised and painted image of the deity.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: american; ancienthistory; andes; archaeology; chicago; curseofagade; dawn; fieldmuseum; found; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; illinois; incaempire; incas; jonathanhaas; peru; religion; staffgod; thestaffgod
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:53:48 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
, the Staff God I used to work for him.
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:54:36 PM PDT
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AppyPappy
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Jaredite Bump!
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:55:29 PM PDT
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Illbay
To: AppyPappy
"Staff God Source," right?
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:56:34 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: All
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:58:31 PM PDT
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To: AppyPappy
"
with a fanged mouth and splayed and clawed feet..Performance reviews must have been fun.
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posted on
04/14/2003 4:59:49 PM PDT
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El Sordo
To: blam
Bump
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:00:30 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
To: El Sordo
Try walking out at 5. You get disemboweled......at first.
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:01:21 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: blam
I suppose this
100% conclusively could never have had even 0.0000000001% of anything to do with
the serpents on a staff during the time of Moses in the wilderness when God sent snakes to kill the lot of them for their grumbling--then responded warmly to Moses' interceding for the people by having Moses put--what--golden serpents up on a pole for the people to look at and be healed--in a prophetic type of Christ on the Cross.
I don't know the relative timelines.
But stranger things have happened.
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:25:36 PM PDT
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Quix
(QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
To: Quix
"I don't know the relative timelines. " This Peru god is 500-1,000 years before Moses' time.
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:36:22 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Ah well,
so much for that conjecture!
THANKS.
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:38:39 PM PDT
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Quix
(QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
To: Quix
"Ah well, so much for that conjecture!
THANKS".
Well, you got me thinkin'. Where did the doctors staff with the snakes originate?
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posted on
04/14/2003 5:55:32 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
"Well, you got me thinkin'. Where did the doctors staff with the snakes originate?"
From the same Moses and the brass serpent part of the Bible is what I've been told.
A winged serpent was also a representation of God to ancient natives of central and south America and is frequently seen in old ruins.
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posted on
04/14/2003 7:08:12 PM PDT
by
Grig
To: Grig
"A winged serpent was also a representation of God to ancient natives of central and south America and is frequently seen in old ruins." A number of anthropologists think that images of serpents,snakes,dragons and etc, represent comets.
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posted on
04/14/2003 7:36:38 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Dawn Of American Religion Found (2,250 BC) Criminy, did they have Armani suits, bad toupees, and Southern accents back then too?
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posted on
04/14/2003 7:38:38 PM PDT
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strela
("... he's a spy and a girl delighter")
To: strela
"Criminy, did they have Armani suits, bad toupees, and Southern accents back then too?" Nah, sounds more like the 'snake-charmer' variety.
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posted on
04/14/2003 7:49:06 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
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posted on
04/14/2003 8:17:05 PM PDT
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APBaer
To: APBaer
Thanks, AP.
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posted on
04/14/2003 8:42:02 PM PDT
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blam
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posted on
08/11/2005 11:03:47 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
To: blam
The Rod of Asclepius in Greek mythology
though often thought to be from the Rod of Caduceus
who was the god of commerce, not medicine. Mercury carried a similar staff. Lots of snake gods/cults during the bronze age throughout the Mideast and Africa
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11/01/2019 2:37:23 PM PDT
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SJackson
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