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'US SOLDIER ATTACKS TROOPS' [unsanitized discussion of MUSLIM treason suspect]
Sky News ^ | 3/22/03 | not given

Posted on 03/22/2003 7:10:19 PM PST by mondonico

'US SOLDIER ATTACKS TROOPS'

An American Muslim soldier is understood to have carried out a grenade attack on a US military camp which injured 16 soldiers.

A second man, who is not a soldier, is thought to be held.

Three grenades were rolled into three tents housing military leaders of the 101st Airborne Division Saturday night at Camp Pennsylvania, home of the, near the Iraqi border, said Sky correspondent Stuart Ramsay, who is in the base.

The grenade that was rolled into the first tent, where the commanding officer sleeps, did not go off.

But two other grenades used to attack tents where the unit's majors and captains sleep did explode.

'Acting weird'

Ramsay watched as the suspects were held.

"Two men are being held, one of which is a Muslim soldier who is an engineer," Ramsay said.

"It appears he was hiding in a barrack where the attacks happened. A second man, who we believe is not an American soldier, is being held by the military.

"As the man who carried out the attack moved away there was some shooting. He was shot in the leg. He was held on the ground less than 100 yards from where the attack happened."

He said fears about the Muslim soldier's behaviour had been raised in recent days by colleagues.

Interrogation

"In recent days they were concerned about his behaviour and were not going to send him up to the front when the soldiers were going to be deployed."

It is not clear whether the soldier, who Ramsay said would have been in the Gulf for some weeks, had planned the attack before being deployed.

"To be honest we just do not know," Ramsay said.

"Talking to other soldiers, it could be that he was disgruntled. They said he had been acting 'weird' for days."

Eleven soldiers who were seriously hurt were flown out of the camp by helicopter.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: viaveritasvita
Can I have the first shot? Please?

I think there's a long line ahead of you... he's just made about 200 million enemies.

221 posted on 03/22/2003 9:21:06 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
>>"I'm amazed that some posters on this thread seem to be treating this as an isolated incident -- as if the perp's purported affiliation to Islam has nothing to do with his treason.<<"

It has everything to do with it; these vermin have infected our communities and our institutions, including, apparently, the military. It's shocking and sickening. Round 'em all up and kick all their butts out of our country.....well, that's my fantasy anyway. Just like the commies in the 40s, we will never ever be rid of this enemy in our midst. It is years too late to contain this contamination.

222 posted on 03/22/2003 9:22:00 PM PST by viaveritasvita
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To: MarlboroRed
Why? Because blacks who've converted to Islam have done so because (i) they hate the U.S., (ii) hate Jews, and (iii) hate White people. In other words, the perfect candidate for a soldier who would do something like this. One or two here or there, no big deal, but 1,625 could do real damage.

Kick them out. Diversity is weakness, not strength. We need no Muslims in our military.

-ccm

223 posted on 03/22/2003 9:23:25 PM PST by ccmay
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To: applemac_g4
I wonder what the fatwah is for a muslim serving in the U.S. military and how many muslim clerics are serving in the military.
224 posted on 03/22/2003 9:24:10 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Abar; The Ghost of Richard Nixon
As a Christian nation, the battle of the Jews has always been our battle as well. We serve the same LORD.
225 posted on 03/22/2003 9:25:08 PM PST by viaveritasvita
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To: mondonico

Why Bush Will Not Defeat Islamic Terrorism

By Chaim Ben Pesach

(Originally published by JTF.ORG on February 19, 2003)

You can never defeat a determined enemy unless you recognize and identify that enemy.

America and Israel refuse to recognize and identify their common enemy: Islam.

America was created as a Republic in which the concept of religious liberty and tolerance is enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

More importantly, ever since America's formation in 1776, the doctrine of religious freedom and diversity has been enshrined in the heart and soul of the American people.

So it is extremely difficult for Americans to identify an enemy based upon his religious beliefs.

To do so seemingly goes against the spirit of American religious pluralism.

Americans believe that everyone has the right to their own religious beliefs and that it is un-American to infringe upon the religious liberties of their fellow citizens.

But....

What do we do when we are confronted by a religion, Islam, that preaches the physical extermination or forced conversion of all non-Muslims?

What do we do when we are violently attacked by a Nazi ideology that happens to be the deeply held religious belief of 1.3 billion Muslims?

What do we do when the Muslim religion itself, through its hateful Koran, commands all Muslims to engage in "jihad" (holy war) until the entire world is "dar al Islam" (under Islamic rule)?

What do we do when the Muslim religion itself in the Koran refers to all non-Muslims as "pigs" and "monkeys"?

What do we do when the world's Muslims obey Koranic Nazi teachings and massacre huge numbers of Christians, Jews and other non-Muslim "infidels"?

What do we do as the Muslim world races feverishly to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction to exterminate millions of Americans and Israelis as their religion commands them to do?

What do we do about the Muslim birthrate, which is by far the world's largest and which is causing the Islamic Nazi menace to grow astronomically?

What do we do? We deny reality because to acknowledge the truth would be to condemn an entire religion, something which Americans consider to be extraordinary distasteful.

So George W. Bush knowingly lies to the American people and speaks of how "peaceful" Islam really is.

The Bolshevik news media — much of which is now owned by Muslim terrorist Arab oil money — happily trumpets the same lies about "peaceful" Islam.

The fact that Islam was created and spread by the sword is ignored by our politicians and media.

The fact that the Nazi Koran preaches fanatic hatred, intolerance and genocide against all non-Muslims is ignored.

Americans face a difficult situation because for the first time in U.S. history, our nation is under attack for religious reasons.

All of America's prior wars had nationalistic — rather than religious — motivations.

The Revolutionary War was a battle for liberty and independence from British tyranny.

The Civil War was a battle over slavery and states rights.

World War I was a battle to prevent fanatic German chauvinism from overrunning all of Europe.

World War II was a battle to prevent the fascism of Germany, Japan and their numerous allies from conquering the world.

Korea, Vietnam and the Cold War were all battles against G-dless Communism.

Now for the first time in history, America is under attack for religious reasons.

The Muslim war against America did not begin on September 11, 2001.

The war started in June 1968, when PLO terrorist Sirhan Sirhan — under the direct orders of the Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat — assassinated U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy, who had just become the frontrunner for the Democratic Presidential nomination following his victory in the California primary.

PLO terrorists then seized the American Embassy in the Sudan to demand Sirhan's release. The CIA has Arafat's voice on a tape in which he personally ordered the PLO terrorists to murder the American Ambassador and his assistant, which the PLO terrorists in fact did.

Other Muslim terrorist attacks followed in which Americans were murdered but the U.S. did not get the message.

When Egypt, Syria and the Arab world staged a sneak attack on little Israel while Jews were fasting and praying on Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement) in October 1973, the U.S. prevented the Jewish State from decisively winning the war when Washington demanded a premature ceasefire just as the Israel Defense Forces were about to destroy the Egyptian Muslim Nazi attackers.

The Arab Muslim world "thanked" the U.S. for saving Nazi Egypt from total defeat by imposing a devastating oil embargo that crippled America's economy throughout the 1970s.

In November 1979, the Iranian Muslim terrorist regime seized the U.S. Embassy in Teheran and held over 100 Americans hostage until January 20, 1981.

In 1983, the Iranian- and Syrian-controlled Hezballah terrorists blew up a U.S. Marines barrack in Lebanon murdering 243 American servicemen. The U.S. "retaliated" by lightly bombing Syrian Army positions in Syrian-occupied Lebanon — causing no casualties and no major damage.

The U.S. Marines were in Lebanon to protect the PLO terrorists from Israeli retaliation. The Marines enabled the PLO terrorists to safely escape from the Israel Defense Forces.

For the millionth time, America desperately sought to curry favor with the hateful Muslim world by stabbing little Israel in the back.

And for the millionth time, the Muslims "thanked" the U.S. by savagely slaughtering hundreds of American "infidels."

The relentless Muslim terrorist attacks on Americans continued throughout the 1980s and 1990s until 3,000 Americans were brutally butchered on September 11th.

But America — and Israel — refuse to recognize that the source of the problem is the Koran.

As long as 1.3 billion Muslims continue to believe in a Nazi book that demands genocide against all non-Muslims, Islamic terrorism will only get worse, much worse, until millions of "infidels" are massacred by weapons of mass destruction.

The only way to end this nightmare is to have leaders in America and Israel who clearly identify the enemy: Islam.

Then we would become energy independent and cut off the hundreds of billions of dollars that flow to Muslim terrorist regimes in order to purchase their oil.

Then we would end our insane policy of giving foreign aid to all of our enemies.

Then we would destroy Muslim terrorist nuclear bomb-making factories in Iran, Libya, Egypt and Saudi Arabia rather than focus solely on the far less developed — and far less dangerous — weapons development program in Iraq.

If we did all of this, the primitive, lazy and parasitic Muslim world would literally be starving.

That would force an end to the Muslim population boom, and there would not be the billions of dollars needed to rebuild destroyed nuclear bomb-making factories.

The only voices of truth in the life-and-death struggle against Islam are JTF in America and the Herut (Liberty) Party in Israel.

We can turn the tide and awaken the American and Israeli public if only we have the necessary funding.


226 posted on 03/22/2003 9:25:36 PM PST by majordivit
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Ok for this thread...it is significant. Since you chose to defend Islam under the assumption that your are jewish...I would like to point out that you ignore my post number 190. Also, you still did not answer my questions from the other thread about Muslims having to follow Fatwas from Imaan recognized by Mecca and the Arab Tent.

Generally these thread are chat...yes. But for this thread, the religion you are trying to represent, and the stand you took...this is significant.
227 posted on 03/22/2003 9:26:56 PM PST by Calpernia (http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
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To: aristeides
Yeah. According to one of FOX's embedded reporters a scud warning siren was going off at the same time this pinhead chunked the grenades under the tents. This was the cause of a lot of the confusion as to what was going on. They were reacting to two things at once.
228 posted on 03/22/2003 9:28:49 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Duckdog
Not going to happen - the PC crowd will have a field day - JEssie jackass, Al Sharpton, and co. will raise all sorts of heck (not to even mention Farakahn - ugh).

This guy will get off with 30 days and a dishonorable discharge. He will then go on to write a book about the opressive US.
229 posted on 03/22/2003 9:31:10 PM PST by TheBattman
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To: walkingman
"This is one freak"

Hope your right!

Is walking Man 1/9 Nam ?
231 posted on 03/22/2003 9:32:51 PM PST by invenire
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To: da_toolman; MadIvan
They are Fox News' sister station out of Britain.... thinking they are just as reliable as Fox News.

If so, the Labour Party must be sh!ttin' it's pants!

232 posted on 03/22/2003 9:34:42 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (There be no shelter here; the front line is everywhere!)
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To: mondonico
Just got through watching FOX.

Obvioulsy a black Muslim...whether American born or a West African born immigrant I couldn't say.

He is with an engineering attachment with the 101st.

Of the wounded several looked very serious. One has died sadly. Several others seriously wounded.

The perp was striking out at brigade leaders.

One of the wounded was a woman (so much for no women in combat eh?)

He appeared to be striking out in some misguided interpretation of his religious convictions.

ALL THAT ACCORDING TO A TIME REPORTER ON THE SCENE WHO WAS IN THE TENT WITH THE WOMAN WHO WAS INJURED BY FRAGMENTS>

Having these loons in our combat units is idiocy...PC run amok as usual as costing lives sadly.
233 posted on 03/22/2003 9:37:05 PM PST by wardaddy (G-dspeed our troops!)
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To: two23
Eye-witness from Time magazine, Jim Lacey, just said on Fox that the guy was "striking out as an interpretation of his Muslim faith."

That's the ONLY interpretation of the Muslim faith.

234 posted on 03/22/2003 9:38:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of grey.)
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To: mondonico
What is it going to take to convince the world, THIS was NO MISTAKE?

Freeper's Guide to Islamic Cyberterror

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

The True Furqan can be located on HERE or HERE




235 posted on 03/22/2003 9:39:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Grampa Dave
You are right-on GD, but before someone else points it out,
the Desert Storm 'frag' traitor was John Allen Williams,
later known as John Allen Muhammad.

Malvo was the other D.C. Sniper.
236 posted on 03/22/2003 9:39:43 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Resentment" is what was reported earlier as the motive. Maybe it causes a conflict of interest for the US military to send muslim-americans into battle against muslims?
Is that what this is about?
237 posted on 03/22/2003 9:41:28 PM PST by two23
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To: Mister Baredog
I'm not so sure, don't forget ""the fog of war"

You've got that right -- as well as the confusion that surrounds any breaking story. Having covered hundreds, if not thousands, of them, I can tell you that that misinformation abounds in the first few hours, especially when the action is on the other side of the world and reporters have to depend on a wide variety of sources, some of which are bound to be unreliable.

Consider also that this story is political dynamite. If I was covering it I'd make absolutely certain every single "i" was dotted and "t" crossed before reporting anything but the basic facts, out of fairness to all concerned. You can be sure that news desks around the world are vetting this with the highest power magnifying glasses available. Back off and wait for the facts to emerge over the next several hours or days -- they will. Don't rush to judgment.

238 posted on 03/22/2003 9:41:29 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Grampa Dave
I could upload a pretty fair picture of the fraggin' Muslim
that I snapped off the TV from my CBS affiliate
(before Dan Rather ordered his photo not be shown anymore,
NOR allowing him to be called black, or a Muslim.)


If no one else posts a good photo soon, I will.
239 posted on 03/22/2003 9:44:04 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
Could you post it? I never saw it the first time.
240 posted on 03/22/2003 9:47:05 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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